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30 days dual character training - now on Singularity

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Balkor Wolf
Doomheim
#81 - 2013-05-10 14:03:19 UTC
Legion40k wrote:
Balkor Wolf wrote:
Been chatting about this on the alliance forums and a question had just come to mind.

Let's say you are training up two characters through this system and while training on both of them is running the time for it runs out. Which of the character's training is going to stop?



mmk that's a good point, there's a bunch of different ways CCP could tackle that..though i dunno. The worst possible is that if your subscription runs out then "oh well, should've thought about that" consequence.

:s


I have no doubt CCP have already considered this possibility and how to deal with it however it would be nice if we knew about it =P Also between now and when the new expansion deploys I don't think there is enough time for us to test this ourselves.

My own personal thoughts are that either the character with the highest SP training keeps running (Presuming that CCP do intend this feature to be for alts) Or the character who's skill que was last updated has their training continue.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#82 - 2013-05-10 14:11:55 UTC
Maxpie wrote:
Has CCP declared war on consequences?
Not really, no.

Quote:
First pay to fix sec status, now this.
So first something that doesn't remove circumstances — just displace them in time and space, but make them the same as always, and now something that has nothing to do with consequences and which is already in place in a different, more cumbersome form. Ehm… what?

Quote:
I don't like the wowification of my Eve.
What does any of this have to do with WoW?
Danni stark
#83 - 2013-05-10 14:12:25 UTC
simple solution to the "which character stops training" is to simply not let you add 30 days training time to an alt if your subscription is less than 30 days longer than the time remaining on your alt's skill training activation thingy.

eg if you have 5 months left on your account, and you have 4.5 months on your 2nd character's skill queue you can't add more time on to your alt's skill queue.

alternatively, split it, so they both expire at the same time.

Ice Mining Skill Plan.
Jassmin Joy
Pulling The Plug
PURPLE HELMETED WARRIORS
#84 - 2013-05-10 14:15:20 UTC
Not sure how i feel about this to be honest, on one hand it could be usefull, on the other i've got multiple accounts for multiple toons that i don't need logged in at the same time just to train them, this makes that all redundant.
Grath Telkin
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
#85 - 2013-05-10 14:15:53 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Maxpie wrote:
Has CCP declared war on consequences?
Not really, no.

Quote:
First pay to fix sec status, now this.
So first something that doesn't remove circumstances — just displace them in time and space, but make them the same as always, and now something that has nothing to do with consequences and which is already in place in a different, more cumbersome form. Ehm… what?

Quote:
I don't like the wowification of my Eve.
What does any of this have to do with WoW?



I'm not sure if you noticed, but you're talking to idiots.

Malcanis - Without drone assign, the slowcat doctrine will wither and die.
Dez Affinity
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#86 - 2013-05-10 14:23:43 UTC
Anyone posting against this is an idiot.
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#87 - 2013-05-10 14:25:04 UTC
It's the latest extreme sport, Grath.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#88 - 2013-05-10 14:25:34 UTC
Dez Affinity wrote:
Anyone posting against this is an idiot.




"Grrr CCP! STOP GIVING ME OPTIONS!!!!"

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Malak Dawnfire
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#89 - 2013-05-10 14:25:50 UTC
Grath Telkin wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Maxpie wrote:
Has CCP declared war on consequences?
Not really, no.

Quote:
First pay to fix sec status, now this.
So first something that doesn't remove circumstances — just displace them in time and space, but make them the same as always, and now something that has nothing to do with consequences and which is already in place in a different, more cumbersome form. Ehm… what?

Quote:
I don't like the wowification of my Eve.
What does any of this have to do with WoW?



I'm not sure if you noticed, but you're talking to idiots.



Lmao! Made me laugh much harder than it should have also-

EVE dying.
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#90 - 2013-05-10 14:26:22 UTC
Danni stark wrote:
simple solution to the "which character stops training" is to simply not let you add 30 days training time to an alt if your subscription is less than 30 days longer than the time remaining on your alt's skill training activation thingy.

eg if you have 5 months left on your account, and you have 4.5 months on your 2nd character's skill queue you can't add more time on to your alt's skill queue.

alternatively, split it, so they both expire at the same time.


The even simpler solution is that your account stays active until both PLEX have expired.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
bloodknight2
Revenu.Quebec
#91 - 2013-05-10 14:27:40 UTC
Quite useless in my opinion. Still better to have 2 accounts.
Steve Spooner
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#92 - 2013-05-10 14:28:05 UTC
It costs $5 for a brand spanking new account with a 300 million isk implant when there's a sale. With that you get the price of 3/5ths of a PLEX AND you have another toon to play along with your main. This brings nothing.
Dez Affinity
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#93 - 2013-05-10 14:29:31 UTC
bloodknight2 wrote:
Quite useless in my opinion. Still better to have 2 accounts.


What if you want to train up a cyno account on your main without having to train it on an alt account and then transfer it? (without stopping training your main I mean)
Thorn Galen
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
The Curatores Veritatis Auxiliary
#94 - 2013-05-10 14:29:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Thorn Galen
I totally support this product and/or service.

No really, I think it's about time we could do this.

Now I can train an Alt on my main account and take him or her out shopping when he or she is "ready", trained to fly around Jita shouting "TRADE @ DODIE"S TODAY" Twisted

If this update comes to TQ, it would be a brilliant $$$ maker for CCP and pretty decent for players wanting to train an Alt on the same account they play on most of the time.

I read somewhere in this thread that this was "wowifying" EVE. What ??? WTH has this got to do with making playing EVE as boring as "that" game ?

I think some moaners "just gotta moan, just because!"

o7

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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#95 - 2013-05-10 14:29:51 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Danni stark wrote:
simple solution to the "which character stops training" is to simply not let you add 30 days training time to an alt if your subscription is less than 30 days longer than the time remaining on your alt's skill training activation thingy.

eg if you have 5 months left on your account, and you have 4.5 months on your 2nd character's skill queue you can't add more time on to your alt's skill queue.

alternatively, split it, so they both expire at the same time.

The even simpler solution is that your account stays active until both PLEX have expired.

Simpler still: if you're going to let the account lapse in 15 days, don't start training on a second character.
Dez Affinity
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#96 - 2013-05-10 14:30:07 UTC
Steve Spooner wrote:
It costs $5 for a brand spanking new account with a 300 million isk implant when there's a sale. With that you get the price of 3/5ths of a PLEX AND you have another toon to play along with your main. This brings nothing.


Then don't use it.
Eram Fidard
Doomheim
#97 - 2013-05-10 14:30:11 UTC
random speculation: Character Bazaar prices will rise at first as more people see character trading as viable income, then crash gradually as supply rockets.

There's a lot more there but that's why they call it speculation...

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James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#98 - 2013-05-10 14:31:57 UTC
I thought the question of "which character stops training" had absolutely nothing to do with subscriptions but rather, well, which character stops training when the dual character training expires.
You can only activate dual character training for max 37 days in advance of the current date. As in, you activate it for 30 days, and then 7 days before it expires you renew it which I assume tacks another 30 days onto the end, so you're always within 37 days of dual training deactivating.

I think I agree with the above that the better solution to this problem would be to pause training for the character with less skillpoints.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#99 - 2013-05-10 14:36:05 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
I thought the question of "which character stops training" had absolutely nothing to do with subscriptions but rather, well, which character stops training when the dual character training expires.
Intuitively, they should probably flag the current character in training as the “main”, and it keeps training when the time runs out. What you do in the mean-time with the other two character and how you split the time between them (if at all) is up to you.

At least that seems to me like it would be most in line with how same-account alts will be trained.
Muad 'dib
State War Academy
Caldari State
#100 - 2013-05-10 14:51:42 UTC
anything that makes anything better for some and doesnt effects others - makes no difference, you bloody bunch of babies.

Its a great idea - im bitter i didnt get the same chance but that does not effect the facts its a good idea to save time and money for those it helps.

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