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30 days dual character training - now on Singularity

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Melvin Sneedly
State War Academy
Caldari State
#41 - 2013-05-10 11:38:58 UTC
This will be great for people who want to train an alt for a limited period of time without having to pause the training on their main.
Murdock Willows
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#42 - 2013-05-10 11:39:43 UTC
Azami Nevinyrall wrote:
This is a great idea....only if you can play both characters at once.


you have no imagination.
Nomad I
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#43 - 2013-05-10 11:42:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Nomad I
Britta Nolen wrote:
BRB, converting all isk to PLEX.

Finally, its about damn time.


This feature is useless:

1 account more for one plex gives you 3 chars. When you are ready you can move the char to another acc. But as long as you train a 2nd char, yo can use 2 chars for free
2 chars training on the same account cost you 2 plexes.

The choice is obvious
RaTTuS
BIG
#44 - 2013-05-10 11:44:50 UTC
Tenris Anis wrote:
Damnit, now I need an option to buy additional character slots via plex ;-)

I've asked before about additional character slotsBig smile

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Caples
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#45 - 2013-05-10 11:45:10 UTC
How is this any different from having two accounts other than you not being able to have both characters online at the same time?
Antal Marius
Allied Operations
Mechanicus Macabre Immortale
#46 - 2013-05-10 11:48:10 UTC
The way I look at this, is that I can train alts that I can go and sell without disrupting the training on my main(s) that I run with all the time.

I can also use the extra cyno alts =)
Sir Marksalot
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#47 - 2013-05-10 11:48:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Sir Marksalot
Nomad I wrote:
Britta Nolen wrote:
BRB, converting all isk to PLEX.

Finally, its about damn time.


This feature is useless:

1 account more for one plex gives you 3 chars. When you are ready you can move the char to another acc. But as long as you train a 2nd char, yo can use 2 chars for free
2 chars training on the same account cost you 2 plexes.

The choice is obvious


did you not read the rest of the thread or what


Caples wrote:
How is this any different from having two accounts other than you not being able to have both characters online at the same time?


you too
Murdock Willows
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#48 - 2013-05-10 11:52:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Murdock Willows
Nomad I wrote:
Britta Nolen wrote:
BRB, converting all isk to PLEX.

Finally, its about damn time.


This feature is useless:

1 account more for one plex gives you 3 chars. When you are ready you can move the char to another acc. But as long as you train a 2nd char, yo can use 2 chars for free
2 chars training on the same account cost you 2 plexes.

The choice is obvious


read the forum....you can train finite alts like PI/CYNO/INDY/trade alts without incurring transfer costs (alts that don't need to be logged in all the time.
Murdock Willows
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#49 - 2013-05-10 11:52:59 UTC
Sir Marksalot wrote:
Nomad I wrote:
Britta Nolen wrote:
BRB, converting all isk to PLEX.

Finally, its about damn time.


This feature is useless:

1 account more for one plex gives you 3 chars. When you are ready you can move the char to another acc. But as long as you train a 2nd char, yo can use 2 chars for free
2 chars training on the same account cost you 2 plexes.

The choice is obvious


did you not read the rest of the thread or what


Caples wrote:
How is this any different from having two accounts other than you not being able to have both characters online at the same time?


you too


people lack imagination and are pretty dumb.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#50 - 2013-05-10 11:54:24 UTC
DelightSucker wrote:
this feature have been here forever, its called and ALT account

whats good about this??

its gonna cost the same as running another acc, that you can actually play on, have 2 cynos alts or 2 noob spys or whatever.

now we get the option to pay for 2 and only able to play whit one.


also. CCP, i thought you learned by having 2 options right next to each other. add game time and this right under each other is bound to fill up your pettion system!

No, the difference is you don't have to keep a second account subscribed for, say, a cyno alt, and at the same time don't have to stop training on your main.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Rebecha Pucontis
Doomheim
#51 - 2013-05-10 11:55:22 UTC
Antal Marius wrote:
The way I look at this, is that I can train alts that I can go and sell without disrupting the training on my main(s) that I run with all the time.

I can also use the extra cyno alts =)

You'll end up spending more on the PLEX and skill books than anyone is going to pay for your alt on the character bazaar.
Rebecha Pucontis
Doomheim
#52 - 2013-05-10 11:57:10 UTC
Murdock Willows wrote:
people lack imagination and are pretty dumb.

Yes, you can seperate the visionaries of eve from the standard corp grunts in this thread.
Sir Marksalot
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#53 - 2013-05-10 11:58:17 UTC
Rebecha Pucontis wrote:
Antal Marius wrote:
The way I look at this, is that I can train alts that I can go and sell without disrupting the training on my main(s) that I run with all the time.

I can also use the extra cyno alts =)

You'll end up spending more on the PLEX and skill books than anyone is going to pay for your alt on the character bazaar.


I haven't done the math because I really don't care. But I'm pretty sure focused (super)capital alts sell for more than they cost to make.

e: it won't be after this though ahahaha
Murdock Willows
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#54 - 2013-05-10 12:00:09 UTC
Rebecha Pucontis wrote:
Antal Marius wrote:
The way I look at this, is that I can train alts that I can go and sell without disrupting the training on my main(s) that I run with all the time.

I can also use the extra cyno alts =)

You'll end up spending more on the PLEX and skill books than anyone is going to pay for your alt on the character bazaar.


couldn't that be said for training an alt on another account? in the end if your selling the char it will cost about the same since you have to pay transfer costs...
Rebecha Pucontis
Doomheim
#55 - 2013-05-10 12:00:36 UTC
Sir Marksalot wrote:
Rebecha Pucontis wrote:
Antal Marius wrote:
The way I look at this, is that I can train alts that I can go and sell without disrupting the training on my main(s) that I run with all the time.

I can also use the extra cyno alts =)

You'll end up spending more on the PLEX and skill books than anyone is going to pay for your alt on the character bazaar.


I haven't done the math because I really don't care. But I'm pretty sure focused (super)capital alts sell for more than they cost to make.

e: it won't be after this though ahahaha

:) Ok perhaps I am wrong. But common sense would suggest that when you take into account the higher cost of subbing with a PLEX, along with the transfer fees, that you would not get as much as you spent back. But that may be wrong as I haven't ever bothered to do the maths either.
Rebecha Pucontis
Doomheim
#56 - 2013-05-10 12:02:27 UTC
Murdock Willows wrote:
Rebecha Pucontis wrote:
Antal Marius wrote:
The way I look at this, is that I can train alts that I can go and sell without disrupting the training on my main(s) that I run with all the time.

I can also use the extra cyno alts =)

You'll end up spending more on the PLEX and skill books than anyone is going to pay for your alt on the character bazaar.


couldn't that be said for training an alt on another account? in the end if your selling the char it will cost about the same since you have to pay transfer costs...

When training an alt on a seperate account you pay a much reduced subscription fee. Or for veterens the main character already has so many skills and advancing more would simply raise the clone cost, then people decide to simply train another character on that account and sell it.
ExAstra
Echoes of Silence
#57 - 2013-05-10 12:02:39 UTC
It's based off of a DUST 514 model. Dust accounts get 3 character slots, but passive SP only works on one account. You can get both active and passive SP boosters (matches provide small SP amounts) to boost individual character SP rate. Using a passive booster on another character's slot gives that character up to 30 days of NORMAL passive SP generation (not boosted like it would be on your main).

It's pretty nice, really.

Save the drones!
Danni stark
#58 - 2013-05-10 12:07:04 UTC
even the cyno alt argument i find a bit weak.

if i'm not mistaken, power of 2 is 3 plex? and then 2 plex for a transfer. that's 6 months of training for 5 plex. although i guess the counter argument is that power of 2 isn't always available.

well, this change only adds things and doesn't take things away so i guess nobody can argue it's a bad idea, only the extent of how useful it will be.

Ice Mining Skill Plan.
Maximille Biagge
Hydra Eternal
#59 - 2013-05-10 12:09:46 UTC
Its actually a great thing, remember that you still can't log on two characters from the same account at once so it's not going to be used for most types of alt. Also if you want a second char to skill alongside your main permanently it's still much simpler to just plex a second account.
Sir Marksalot
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#60 - 2013-05-10 12:10:14 UTC
Danni stark wrote:
even the cyno alt argument i find a bit weak.

if i'm not mistaken, power of 2 is 3 plex? and then 2 plex for a transfer. that's 6 months of training for 5 plex. although i guess the counter argument is that power of 2 isn't always available.

well, this change only adds things and doesn't take things away so i guess nobody can argue it's a bad idea, only the extent of how useful it will be.


Do you not know what a cyno alt is?