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CCP Focuses on EVE Universe - A CCP Announcement

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draconothese
Independant Celestial Enterprises
#501 - 2011-10-20 05:44:23 UTC
its sad they had to let people go but its good they are getting there prioritys straight and focusing on there core games and not wasting resources that they may need in the future
Dbars Grinding
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#502 - 2011-10-20 05:46:15 UTC
Tobias Sjodin wrote:
Could you not have at least waited with laying people off AFTER the holidays?



I can see it now, kids ask their parents why didn't santa bring them any gifts and why it is so cold and their house.

I have more space likes than you. 
draconothese
Independant Celestial Enterprises
#503 - 2011-10-20 05:49:51 UTC
they said they were going to try and help them get placed in another job so thats a nice thing not just shoving them out the door
Obsidian Hawk
RONA Midgard Academy
#504 - 2011-10-20 05:53:56 UTC
CCP has a lot of good people, and they need to sit up and say, these lay offs are temporary. We are going to rebuild eve, get it back to 50k online all the time and hire back everyone we had to let go!


Like many of the staff in my corp / alliance we are family, we hate to see each other leave and we work hard to get them back.

Why Can't I have a picture signature.

Also please support graphical immersion, bring back the art that brought people to EvE online originaly.
McSnarf
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#505 - 2011-10-20 05:56:25 UTC
First of all, sympathies for those who lost their jobs. You KNOW it wasn't your fault.

Shame on CCP management. Laying off 20% is something you do when you seriously, seriously ****** up. I would not go on the street without a paper bag over my head for a year if I had to take this decision. A saying here goes: "The fish starts stinking from the head."

Will one of the top five people in CCP go as well? Or are you just cutting costs quick and dirty, while still working on projects of dubious value?

Tell you what. You cut costs, I cut costs. Time to consolidate alts!




Disclaimer: I in no way represent or speak for EVE University or Ivy League. I use this character as a way to post on this forum.
Pj Harvey
Red DUST Industries.
#506 - 2011-10-20 06:05:12 UTC
I've browsed the forums for years and never seen much from any of these 'community representatives' except for dumb smiley face spam from CCP fallout and the bungled handling of most crisis that CCP has had in the last few years from the rest of them so it seems like a good business to me, as heartless as that might sound.
Mahadiva
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#507 - 2011-10-20 06:06:01 UTC
Not a surprising move really. Even before the recent monoclegate disaster and the resulting consequences it was highly suspect that CCP could continue to expand and work on three projects simultaneously while garnering revenue from only one. Was EVE really that profitable to justify the delusions of grandeur?

In that light, it would be more interesting to know how what constitutes a subscription in EVE anymore, seeing as these days you can play without spending any RL money. Do you just count any active account? Is a trial account that bought a PLEX with ISK already a subscription? Saying that "subs are up" is quite useless and potentially misleading imo.
John Frohike
Revival.
OnlyFleets.
#508 - 2011-10-20 06:06:02 UTC
Sorry to hear that some people are getting the boot. Here's to hoping they land on their feet.
knobber Jobbler
State War Academy
Caldari State
#509 - 2011-10-20 06:10:00 UTC
Not sure how letting go community team members helps. If there ever was a problem with ccp communication it was with the official messages the community team got to pass from higher management. It's almost like you're looking for a fall guy.

It's the senior producers, CTO and business strategists that need to be got rid off. They're the ones who hindered community management. All you've done ccp is get rid of the fire fighters, the people the players respect. Poor move but then we've come to expect that from you.
Dalton Vanadis
Imperium Technologies
Sigma Grindset
#510 - 2011-10-20 06:19:28 UTC
Look, I know a lot of hard decisions have to be made for the betterment of the company.

But I really must protest to laying off Fallout. She has done more for the community than any software patch from the coding teams could hope to accomplish. This fine lady has been both friend and colleague to many. She has bridged the gap between player and dev on many levels.

She has been on the front lines calming players, and distilling our message into a comprehensible format for CCP since I started playing this game and before.

For me, Fallout has been an integral part of the EVE experience, she has represented the community of players and devs, she has been the face and voice of a company in many ways. I strongly urge you to reconsider your decision about her employment.

It would seem she has done far more for EVE online, CCP, and players than you give her credit for and I believe it would hurt your efforts in focusing on EVE to fire her than the meager gain you would make by removing her salary from the payroll. So again, I urge you to keep this amazing dev on staff to continue the vital job she has held for years that will aid you in your quest to focus on EVE.
bilingi
Grandeur Illusions
#511 - 2011-10-20 06:23:00 UTC
Fallout was also a pain in the ...... I remeber the statement everyone in NPC corps is an RMTer ... then tried damage control for 4 days before hiding it all as much as possiable.
Naran Eto
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#512 - 2011-10-20 07:01:55 UTC
Regardless of whether people liked them or not the comunity teams are some of the most important teams in any MMO, "we'll communicate more blah blah blah" says the Hil, yet here he goes and decimates the comunity relations team, well i say Hil is fiull of bullshit and has no intention of comunicating, he's shown this by reducing the comunity team, you know.. the GUYS WHO TALK TO US.

I say we start another Jita protest until they reverse the decision and sack that stupid janitor who that keeps tripping over the network cables instead!
Pyrasol
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#513 - 2011-10-20 07:03:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Pyrasol
First of all my sincere regret to thoughts who have received the brunt of this so called “Re focusing” I wish you all the best of luck in the coming months and hope you will find success in your endeavours. But its times like these when you are forced to adapt and through that process you find potentials in yourself you would never have uncovered.

To CCP
After seeing the financials and following the comments a few months ago I knew this would happen if CCP became cash strapped due to the cash burden they face this month. I would assume they reduced salaries and froze increases this year as well.

I do believe CCP had hoped to BS their way through everything to retain subscriptions but “Pride comes before a fall”. The letter which HELMAR addressed raving about the success of the NEX expansion is a harsh contrast to what we see in this thread. It really showed how out of touch his management was with EVE. In corporate environments the people who make these mistakes get the boot. But CCP is still to a fair degree owner driven.

I feel that allot of what has been said in this blog has its roots in the financial mismanagement that ccp has been subject to in this past two years.

And that it has nothing to do with refocusing on EVE, that is just the “PR SPIN” put on all this to in some way draw additional compassion from the community and repair CCP's public image. However the result is this exercise has lead to more attention being placed on their primary source of income which is EVE-Online and this is a good thing for us as players “FOR NOW”.

But it’s very hard for a Leopard to change its stripes!

So to all thoughs who support Hilmar in Upper management, have a backbone because as we can see here. Swimming against the current is not a bad thing because inevitably there is a rapid or waterfall further down stream that will hurt you. You may not always win against the current but it will buy you some time to come up with a solution... or die trying!
Celery Man
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#514 - 2011-10-20 07:08:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Celery Man
Ah cool so this is the appropriate place to post this

Himlar quit you deuche. You screwed some of your best people out of a job.

Nice work *******

I'd use better arguments but others already have, and to be honest you dont deserve them.
Naran Eto
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#515 - 2011-10-20 07:11:05 UTC
Celery Man wrote:
Ah cool so this is the appropriate place to post this

Himlar quit you deuche. You screwed some of your best people out of a job.

Nice work *******

I'd use better arguments but others already have, and to be honest you dont deserve them.


THIS ^
Ralinastrife
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#516 - 2011-10-20 07:14:55 UTC
really i think developers are bored with eve and wanna do something more exciting...thats why they have other projects....but then the angry trolls of eve outraged and threaten to quit...ccp laughed and said yeah right what game u gonna play?? people quit...they like ohh no we dont have enough money to pay people and fund our new game...we were depending on people to play for a little while longer to cover all the other cost of development and to pay for our drugs and whores...what can we do???? then they say ohh i got it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wz7zo1BvvA4

so after that they say...we have a winter expansion...its gonna be so cool...stick around and see...and now we wait..
The Illuminist
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#517 - 2011-10-20 07:16:37 UTC
CCP:

This is a huge decision to make. While I've not always been a supporter of your recent decisions, I think that you've made the correct choice in how to proceed. This community is fractured, and I think you're finally willing to acknowledge that and work toward a common goal. My heart goes out to those who will suffer in the layoffs. However, from the tone of this blog post, it's clear you as a company are now clear headed in your objectives. I look forward to a bright future for Eve!
Sorran Tor
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#518 - 2011-10-20 07:23:45 UTC
So wait...

CCP, you announce that you're changing direction and starting to actually listen to what the community is saying to you.

Then within a week you fire your team of Community Managers.

The ****.

Hilmar, did you forget that we're watching what you do, not what you say?
Constantinee
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#519 - 2011-10-20 07:26:48 UTC
CCp has failed on so many levels this year, and they continue.

Some good people are no longer there due to several issues with the company and its notorious CEO, Hilmar should not be in control of such a company tbqh. There were better devs (now elsewhere) who could have done a better job instead of him.

Bring back Kieron,Abathur, id say tomb and oveur (even though they never read the forums anymore and hit us with smart ass comments)
Fire hilmar
Abandon dust 514 focus on eve. dust will fail, im sorry but it will, you struggle with keeping a spaceship MMO game alive because the horrid content that was last introduced and the greed of a lackluster ceo and lack of care for the player base, what in your right minds makes you believe you can do a better job with a FPS and compete with games like CoD, Battlefield, and the new Halos planning to come out, let alone making it a PS3 only console shooter ( no ones going to buy a ps3 just for dust). You need to focus on your primary money maker and its community before branching the hell off.

TLDR

Bring back old devs who made game fun
Fire Hilmar
Abandon Dust

Thats all for me.

I wish those no longer with CCP the best and beg you not to go to wow!

Constantinee video archive. http://www.youtube.com/user/Constvids?feature=mhee
The Apostle
Doomheim
#520 - 2011-10-20 07:28:11 UTC
John'eh wrote:
I'm reading this and laughing so hard my gf rushed into the room asking whats going on, because I said the exact same thing to CCP Sr leadership and warned them this would happen, to the peoples faces at the Atlanta office, about a year or so ago when I was brought in by very sr. people at CCP.

Why I was there is not important.... but now they are admitting publicly that I was right, that they were wrong, that they should have listened to me. Imagine what CCP would be like today if they had?

Maybe with this wake-up call, CCP leadership can be a little less out of touch.

Just think of this Helmar, your people knew this would happen, because I told them it would happen about a year ago, and I was ignored. All this pain, all that soul searching, and the fact that you just had to look bad in public, was because of these people and you who didn't listen. You could have saved yourself some trouble if you had listened to the people who had cared about eve enough to be honest with you in the first place, but you didn't. Now you lost a lot of subscribers, you have massive debts and the balance sheet looks terrible.

I was right. You were wrong.. and at least your admitting it now. So what else are you going to do?

Could only think on this line dude sorry.....

"when I was brought in by very sr. people at CCP.... Why I was there is not important...."

Plumber? Electrician?

Said it before and I'll say it again. Why are all those with the best business acumen working for an employer?

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