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CCP Focuses on EVE Universe - A CCP Announcement

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Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
#301 - 2011-10-19 20:29:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Miilla
Perhaps those fired can apply for jobs here...

http://www.ccpgames.com/en/jobs

Proof yanks eat too much and cost too much .

What was breaking CCP's financials was the cafeteria costs in the Atlanta office.
Josefius
13th Tribe of Kobol Expeditionary
#302 - 2011-10-19 20:31:33 UTC
Myxx wrote:
WTF CCP. You got rid of people that worked on EVE while refocusing on EVE?

WTF!

Hammerhead, Wrangler, Fallout, Zymurgist and Gnauton to name a few.

WTF!



Zymurgist and Wrangler? Ugh :(

You have enemies? Good, that means you stood up for something, sometime in your life.

-Winston Churchill
Barakkus
#303 - 2011-10-19 20:31:38 UTC
Josefius wrote:
Miilla wrote:
20% of overweight overpaid people fired.

My pet rock's heart is bleeding.



Why are you such a big meanie butt?


Because he's one of those ******** no life internet nerds that thinks it's funny to be an ass when he can't get his personal ass kicked hiding safely beind his little computer screen.

http://youtu.be/yytbDZrw1jc
Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
#304 - 2011-10-19 20:32:57 UTC
Barakkus wrote:
Josefius wrote:
Miilla wrote:
20% of overweight overpaid people fired.

My pet rock's heart is bleeding.



Why are you such a big meanie butt?


Because he's one of those ******** no life internet nerds that thinks it's funny to be an ass when he can't get his personal ass kicked hiding safely beind his little computer screen.


real life physical threat's are against the rules.
Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
#305 - 2011-10-19 20:34:17 UTC
Perhap's CCP's China office can get setup in one of those special free trade Chinese zones the US gets more off daily :)
Barakkus
#306 - 2011-10-19 20:34:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Barakkus
Miilla wrote:
Barakkus wrote:
Josefius wrote:
Miilla wrote:
20% of overweight overpaid people fired.

My pet rock's heart is bleeding.



Why are you such a big meanie butt?


Because he's one of those ******** no life internet nerds that thinks it's funny to be an ass when he can't get his personal ass kicked hiding safely beind his little computer screen.


real life physical threat's are against the rules.



Blah blah blah troll, no one made any threats.
God you're such a nuisance. You must be like 15 years old aren't you?
I've know 5 year olds that are more mature...

http://youtu.be/yytbDZrw1jc
seany1212
M Y S T
#307 - 2011-10-19 20:35:08 UTC
I am one of those that doesnt really care, i hope that the ones fired were the ones that openly neglected the community when we were calling for change rather than those unaware. For months if not years the community has outlined problems within the game and while usually its a small minority crying about a tiny detail within the game, when its the whole community in uproar then someone within CCP should be rallying around saying clearly theres a problem with the game rather than waiting until subs start dropping and they have to end up firing people due to cash flow. As i said before i hope its those who refused initially to listen than the ones just caught in the crossfire. CCP reaps what it sows Roll
Flamewave
Crimson Moon Society
#308 - 2011-10-19 20:35:13 UTC
Magnus Orin wrote:
Flamewave wrote:
Quote:
Developing EVE expansions, DUST 514 and World of Darkness has stretched our resources too thin.

You didn't stretch your resources thin. You stretched your money thin. There's a difference.


No there is not.

Money = Resources. Resources = Money.

People and employees can be considered resources yes, but it requires money (salary/benefits) to keep them on a project.

Resources always equals money.

How do people in the thread not get that?




Money is a resource. People another. The only resource they're freeing up is the money.

Some things ISK can't buy. For everything else, there's Jita.

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Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
#309 - 2011-10-19 20:36:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Miilla
What do you expect if you work at a financially shakey company (with Russian Maffia connections and bankers on the board).

Really, quit acting suprised.



Remember when at the CSM Emergency meeting the CSM where showed metrics that showed NO IMPACT of cancellations.

Guess they lied :)
DJ Xaphod
Eve Radio Corporation
#310 - 2011-10-19 20:36:33 UTC
Quote:
For the immediate future, our mission is to enrich the vast EVE Universe by strengthening the continuous development of EVE Online


By sacking several EVE Online staff members. Roll

In short, I don't believe you, because I'm less likely to believe what you say, rather than what you do.

≡>≡ Radio, Bringing Music to the Masses. http://eve-radio.com I play Rock & Metal Monday Nights 2200 GameTime
Rall Mekin
End-of-Line
#311 - 2011-10-19 20:36:41 UTC
DJ Xaphod wrote:
I don't understand how laying off people who are in the EVE community team* is sharpening your focus on EVE.
If that truly were your goal then you would not be laying off anyone who is working on either EVE or Dust 514 and would only be laying off WoD related staff.

How is laying off extremely well respected EVE community staff members working towards your stated goal, which is to "enrich the vast EVE Universe by strengthening the continuous development of EVE Online"?

So basically CCP, I don't believe that your motives behind your laying off of staff are what you claim they are, and in the face of the evidence I have strong doubts that this will represent a focus on the EVE Universe.

I would strongly recommend a public statement explaining why when claiming you are "strengthening the continuous development of EVE Online" you have actively reduced the size of the EVE Online team.
I would also recommend stating clearly why trusted and respected community staff members are part of the layoffs when doing so is so heavily contrary to the statments within CCP Hellmar's letter:

Quote:
Red flags raised by very smart people both at CCP and in the community went unheeded because of my stubborn refusal to allow adversity to gain purchase on our plans. Mistakes, even when they were acknowledged, often went unanalyzed, leaving the door open for them to be repeated.

Surely laying off possibly the most active and trusted member of the community team will lead to more such mistakes?

Quote:
Part of what led us down this path is the fact we have not communicated well.

And laying off members of the community team will help with that? I struggle to see how.


DJ, I may have missed something, but I do not believe they specifically said they are laying off EVE online team members. Rather, they said they were laying off members of CCP and reorganizing/refocusing.

Based off their public statement, I take it that they are cutting members company wide (one would assume from the World of Darkness/Dust team primarily) and also doing a lot of reassignments to focus more on the EVE Universe (Dust is part of Eve Online in the long run, its just deployed on a different platform).

Honestly, EVE is a really good game as it is and I am excited to see the developmental changes taking place, such as the reassignment of Custom's Offices to player control. It is so good, in fact, that I have unsubscribed to XBox live, my consoles have been collecting dust for nearly a year, and I usually dedicate 1-2 hours a night to ventures of some kind in this strange, beautiful, wild, and exotic space-scape land.

Now, with this announcement, I may even buy a third account and try to fund it by recruitment drives in my local area through the invite-a-buddy program.
Josefius
13th Tribe of Kobol Expeditionary
#312 - 2011-10-19 20:37:14 UTC
Flamewave wrote:
Magnus Orin wrote:
Flamewave wrote:
Quote:
Developing EVE expansions, DUST 514 and World of Darkness has stretched our resources too thin.

You didn't stretch your resources thin. You stretched your money thin. There's a difference.


No there is not.

Money = Resources. Resources = Money.

People and employees can be considered resources yes, but it requires money (salary/benefits) to keep them on a project.

Resources always equals money.

How do people in the thread not get that?




Money is a resource. People another. The only resource they're freeing up is the money.



Why do they call it "Human Resources"?

You have enemies? Good, that means you stood up for something, sometime in your life.

-Winston Churchill
Asuri Kinnes
Perkone
Caldari State
#313 - 2011-10-19 20:38:21 UTC
Xiaodown wrote:
Oberine Noriepa wrote:
EDIT: ^ You, too!

Xiaodown wrote:
~~~ CCP ATL EMPLOYEES: ~~~

The software shop I work for is looking for developers, and we have positions open in Atlanta (Duluth / Suwanee area), as well as Southwestern Virginia (about 5-6 hours from ATL).

We're primarily interested in .NET, Java, Python, and PHP devs. I think it's possible we may have some design positions, but not in any 3d space (no animation, motion capture, etc). We compete in the cloud industry.

Message me with inquiries; I'll make a point to check gate.eve throughout the day. On second thought, I set up an email alias: ccpjobs@dunnclan.net so that you don't have to use work resources to inquire about employment. Heh.

You rock!



Obviously no guarantees, and there's still a rigorous interview process and a development test. And to be honest, Development and high-level System Administration are a couple of areas that are still economically strong. But, I figured if I can at least help get someone an interview, it's something I want to do.

Edit: damnit, missed my chance to snipe the top of the page =(.

I also tweeted about it. Pass the word on #tweetfleet if you can.

Bumping this again. Redundant, I know.

vOv

Bob is the god of Wormholes.

That's all you need to know.
Peregrinus Falco
Falco Industries
#314 - 2011-10-19 20:38:31 UTC
To those who will no longer be with CCP, all the best and we'll pray for you to land on your feet fast.

To CCP: thank you for making the though call. Focus is something I've been hoping for and I'm glad to see that you don't shy away (too much) from making the right decision, no matter how tough. I've felt for a while now that CCP was growing the employee base too quickly.
Kumq uat
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#315 - 2011-10-19 20:39:09 UTC
seany1212 wrote:
I am one of those that doesnt really care, i hope that the ones fired were the ones that openly neglected the community when we were calling for change rather than those unaware. For months if not years the community has outlined problems within the game and while usually its a small minority crying about a tiny detail within the game, when its the whole community in uproar then someone within CCP should be rallying around saying clearly theres a problem with the game rather than waiting until subs start dropping and they have to end up firing people due to cash flow. As i said before i hope its those who refused initially to listen than the ones just caught in the crossfire. CCP reaps what it sows Roll



I know some of them personally and you know nothing of what you are talking about.
Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
#316 - 2011-10-19 20:40:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Miilla
Josefius wrote:
Flamewave wrote:
Magnus Orin wrote:
Flamewave wrote:
Quote:
Developing EVE expansions, DUST 514 and World of Darkness has stretched our resources too thin.

You didn't stretch your resources thin. You stretched your money thin. There's a difference.


No there is not.

Money = Resources. Resources = Money.

People and employees can be considered resources yes, but it requires money (salary/benefits) to keep them on a project.

Resources always equals money.

How do people in the thread not get that?




Money is a resource. People another. The only resource they're freeing up is the money.



Why do they call it "Human Resources"?



HR is not there for the staff, it is there for the company. A human meat shield.

If I was setting up a company each operating unit would be seperate legal entities, especially STAFFING, each business unit and location would be seperate legal entities, especially staffing, nobody would ever work for the main corporate body or the local unit, All offices would be rented out from a location and rental legal entity, all staffing in its own legal entity (as a employment services legal entitty) and so on.

That way each legal entitty is very isolated and protected.

Not a single lawsuit can take out the entire company, each employee would work for the arm, and internally all work is "contracted" out and each one self managed.

Very protective and isolated legally and financially.

That is infact how one should run retail stores, each one SEPERATE legal entities and self funding.


So in that context you would have CCP corporate, CCP "location", CCP Assets (buildings etc), CCP staffing.. all seperate legal entities, employees wold only work for "CCP Employment" legal entitty.

That is how you protect your assets, your businesses.
Captain Carius
#317 - 2011-10-19 20:41:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Captain Carius
Myxx wrote:
WTF CCP. You got rid of people that worked on EVE while refocusing on EVE?

WTF!

Hammerhead, Wrangler, Fallout, Zymurgist and Gnauton to name a few.

WTF!



Zymurgist?? YESS ! Victory ! That schlub needed flushing. Goon luvin little bastid. Talk about biased.

Good choice CCP. Damn.. I may have to resub..
Brit Green
Hagkaup
#318 - 2011-10-19 20:42:20 UTC
I'm not without sympathy for these folks, but part of their job was to keep the rabble under control. They failed at this. When you don't perform your job, you lose it. That's the way these things work.
Marcus Triarius
Freedom Stalkers
#319 - 2011-10-19 20:45:07 UTC
collecting isk for out of work ccp employees please send all donations to me :)

this is not a scam Lol
Mechanoid Kryten
N0VA 5
#320 - 2011-10-19 20:46:55 UTC
Myxx wrote:
WTF CCP. You got rid of people that worked on EVE while refocusing on EVE?

WTF!

Hammerhead, Wrangler, Fallout, Zymurgist and Gnauton to name a few.

WTF!


Wait... this is what ccp meant by wod devs in the usa???

I take back my other post on this thread.

I know I said stuff about fallout in general discussion when she was closing protest threads but only because I thought more highly of her than that whole incident.

Ah well.

What rocks are the most isk per hour to mine? Which of your mission loot is worth more refined than sold? What blue prints make the most proffit? Answers: https://eve-industrialist.com/ Never sell an item for less than its mineral costs again!