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CCP Focuses on EVE Universe - A CCP Announcement

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DaiTengu
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#181 - 2011-10-19 17:31:24 UTC
Verone wrote:

I'm astonished at some of the names that have come up that are being released from the Company.

It's a real shock, because most of these names have been people who've lived, breathed and slept Eve for over half a decade and have always had Eve's core values in their hearts and the best for Eve and CCP at the forefront of their minds.

While downsizing a little is good, whoever decided who was to go, needs a serious reality check.

This is an immense mistake, CCP. In the long run it's probably a bigger mistake than the early release of Incarna.



What names? did I miss something? I didn't know they released names.
Hakaru Ishiwara
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#182 - 2011-10-19 17:34:04 UTC
Rakshasa Taisab wrote:
Excelenta wrote:
maybe they should make some reasearch / pool

about who is interested in dust 514

i even didnt have playstation 3 and i wont buy it to play dust 514

DUST is one of the better ideas CCP has had...
... Until they announced PS3 exclusivity.

Was completely stoked at the potential to play an EVE-related FPS title on either X-Box or [even better] PC when DUST was first announced 2 years ago.

Now? No thank you.

+++++++ I have never shed a tear for a fellow EVE player until now. Mark “Seleene” Heard's Blog Honoring Sean "Vile Rat" Smith.

Riflin' Betty
Perfunctory
#183 - 2011-10-19 17:34:52 UTC
DaiTengu wrote:
Verone wrote:

I'm astonished at some of the names that have come up that are being released from the Company.

It's a real shock, because most of these names have been people who've lived, breathed and slept Eve for over half a decade and have always had Eve's core values in their hearts and the best for Eve and CCP at the forefront of their minds.

While downsizing a little is good, whoever decided who was to go, needs a serious reality check.

This is an immense mistake, CCP. In the long run it's probably a bigger mistake than the early release of Incarna.



What names? did I miss something? I didn't know they released names.


They didn't. But a lot of us know people in CCP.

Some of my friends lost their jobs today, and it's a goddamned shame.

-Helicity
DaiTengu
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#184 - 2011-10-19 17:36:10 UTC
Riflin' Betty wrote:
DaiTengu wrote:
Verone wrote:

I'm astonished at some of the names that have come up that are being released from the Company.

It's a real shock, because most of these names have been people who've lived, breathed and slept Eve for over half a decade and have always had Eve's core values in their hearts and the best for Eve and CCP at the forefront of their minds.

While downsizing a little is good, whoever decided who was to go, needs a serious reality check.

This is an immense mistake, CCP. In the long run it's probably a bigger mistake than the early release of Incarna.



What names? did I miss something? I didn't know they released names.


They didn't. But a lot of us know people in CCP.

Some of my friends lost their jobs today, and it's a goddamned shame.

-Helicity


Didn't Hilmar's recent devblog state they just hired a bunch of people too in order to re-focus?


Also, I still want to know if they're downsizing White Wolf.
Hentes Zsemle
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#185 - 2011-10-19 17:36:24 UTC
CCP is a company, not a charity, and the players are their custumers. Losing your job must be terrible, but i don't see why should i as a customer care, as its none of my damn business.
I don't like it at all that by posting this information ccp is basicly telling us that okay, we get the product we all like, but it comes with people losing their jobs, who were hired under wrong assumptions in the first place.

If such a blog has a place on the frontpage, you should also post that im also spending 20$ or so a month on a video game, which could also help starving children in africa, so im responsible for their suffering aswell.
DJ Hijak
Doomheim
#186 - 2011-10-19 17:43:07 UTC
I feel bad that so many have to loose thier jobs on this decisison

Best of luck to you all, and to my friends that used to work at CCP, I wish you the best

DJ Hijak Station Manager/Owner

T-Jay Charante
Black Sun Industry and Research
#187 - 2011-10-19 17:43:57 UTC
DaiTengu wrote:
Riflin' Betty wrote:
DaiTengu wrote:
Verone wrote:

I'm astonished at some of the names that have come up that are being released from the Company.

It's a real shock, because most of these names have been people who've lived, breathed and slept Eve for over half a decade and have always had Eve's core values in their hearts and the best for Eve and CCP at the forefront of their minds.

While downsizing a little is good, whoever decided who was to go, needs a serious reality check.

This is an immense mistake, CCP. In the long run it's probably a bigger mistake than the early release of Incarna.



What names? did I miss something? I didn't know they released names.


They didn't. But a lot of us know people in CCP.

Some of my friends lost their jobs today, and it's a goddamned shame.

-Helicity


Didn't Hilmar's recent devblog state they just hired a bunch of people too in order to re-focus?


Also, I still want to know if they're downsizing White Wolf.


On Thursday, 19 October 2011, after years of scaling back RPG output, CCP laid off nearly all remaining White Wolf employees, effectively rendering White Wolf Game Studios defunct, although CCP continues to own the trademarks.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Wolf
DaiTengu
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#188 - 2011-10-19 17:47:51 UTC
T-Jay Charante wrote:

On Thursday, 19 October 2011, after years of scaling back RPG output, CCP laid off nearly all remaining White Wolf employees, effectively rendering White Wolf Game Studios defunct, although CCP continues to own the trademarks.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Wolf


I'm not saying it's wrong, but it points back to the press release which mentions absolutely nothing specific about White Wolf or the Pen & Paper division.
Needa3
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#189 - 2011-10-19 17:48:45 UTC
Quote:
First, EVE Online is in good health. Our subscriber numbers are higher today than they were a year ago. Unlike many other MMO's on the market, we have continued to grow year-on-year since launch in 2003. However, over the past two months, our subscribers have gone down from their peak this summer. We attribute this to our own mistakes and poor communications with our players. We are correcting that now.



Where can we check this? What period did you take into account?


Checking Eve Offline still give me a steady decrease in numbers of logged in players.


Also, unless you bring back the sandbox you will not fix anything. You are still focusing on useless crap and have yet not given any thoughts to small gang warfare and their survivability.

Ohh guess what, logistics ships are not the answer.

and

A sandbox consists out of more than drake/ hurricane/ maelstrom blobs or zealot/ abaddon with guardian blobs.

The fix for your sandbox is there ... i wonder how hard it is to make the decision to undo some of the worst patches.


Right now it's WoT > STOR> Eve where as it used to be Eve.

Shame really CCP still doesn't care about their veteran players, even a bigger shame people need to get fired cause you lost all direction even though your player base warned you loads and loads
Rakshasa Taisab
Sane Industries Inc.
#190 - 2011-10-19 17:51:33 UTC
Hakaru Ishiwara wrote:
Rakshasa Taisab wrote:
DUST is one of the better ideas CCP has had...
... Until they announced PS3 exclusivity.

Was completely stoked at the potential to play an EVE-related FPS title on either X-Box or [even better] PC when DUST was first announced 2 years ago.

Now? No thank you.

Go cry in a river of bitter, the PS3 platform is more than good enough. XBox was never an option, and PC FPS does not mix with console.

As a game to satisfy _YOUR_ personal preferences, it might suck ass. For a game that gets lots of players, it might suck a lot of ****.

Nyan

Dessau
The Scope
#191 - 2011-10-19 17:51:40 UTC
While I believe the focus may be placed back where it belongs, I must with sadness salute those hard-working folk who, through no fault or their own, are now faced with swimming through an irradiated landfill of a job market. I hear Montreal has come up in a big way, Vancouver and Seattle may also have some prospects.

I've been through the exact same thing; pretty sleazy that the execs who cause the mess don't take a pay cut.

Hopefully EVE will stay on track going forward, and the subsequent growth will enable some of the WoD crew to return if they so desire.

o7
Rakshasa Taisab
Sane Industries Inc.
#192 - 2011-10-19 17:52:05 UTC
Hakaru Ishiwara wrote:
Rakshasa Taisab wrote:
DUST is one of the better ideas CCP has had...
... Until they announced PS3 exclusivity.

Was completely stoked at the potential to play an EVE-related FPS title on either X-Box or [even better] PC when DUST was first announced 2 years ago.

Now? No thank you.

Go cry in a river of bitter, the PS3 platform is more than good enough. XBox was never an option, and PC FPS does not mix with console.

As a game to satisfy _YOUR_ personal preferences, it might suck ass. For a game that gets lots of players, it might suck a lot of ****.

Nyan

DaiTengu
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#193 - 2011-10-19 17:53:35 UTC  |  Edited by: DaiTengu
DaiTengu wrote:
T-Jay Charante wrote:

On Thursday, 19 October 2011, after years of scaling back RPG output, CCP laid off nearly all remaining White Wolf employees, effectively rendering White Wolf Game Studios defunct, although CCP continues to own the trademarks.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Wolf


I'm not saying it's wrong, but it points back to the press release which mentions absolutely nothing specific about White Wolf or the Pen & Paper division.


Quoting my own post. CCP Transmedia said the following over at the white-wolf forums:

CCP Transmedia wrote:

Sorry to have not responded earlier, but I have a lot of old friends that need to talk. Y'all saw the press release, and while I can't comment on the WoDMMO decisions and how CCP needs to refocus on EVE, I can tell you that the products Eddy and I have been announcing these last few months with WW2.0 and the Onyx Path are all rolling ahead. nWoD, cWoD, Exalted: all still going to have releases as we've announced. Werewolf 20th Anniversary is still being worked on.

It's a bad time for our friends- both from CCP and the oldWW crew- and Eddy and I would like to focus on them right now, so our outward communication with you folks might be spotty for a day or two.

Thanks-
--richt
Creative Director
CCP Transmedia | White Wolf


http://forums.white-wolf.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1195521#post1195521


This is a sort of a Good Thing
Danny John-Peter
The Congregation
RAPID HEAVY ROPERS
#194 - 2011-10-19 17:57:53 UTC
Good to see focus being put back into EVE, but job losses are never good, condolences :(
ArchenTheGreat
Interstellar Clone Transport
#195 - 2011-10-19 17:59:59 UTC
Good luck to all people leaving CCP. I know how hard is to get good job. I hope you will succeed.

I hope it will also be a lesson for CCP management. You are responsible not only for company income but also for your employees.
Dbars Grinding
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#196 - 2011-10-19 18:05:39 UTC
I would cut the CSM and its members next imo.

I have more space likes than you. 

Kengutsi Akira
Doomheim
#197 - 2011-10-19 18:05:40 UTC
T-Jay Charante wrote:


On Thursday, 19 October 2011, after years of scaling back RPG output, CCP laid off nearly all remaining White Wolf employees, effectively rendering White Wolf Game Studios defunct, although CCP continues to own the trademarks.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Wolf


lol Requiem really was for them then.
That game blew an Im glad it destroyed them.
Now fourth edition D&D should do that to WoTC

"Is it fair that CCP can get away with..." :: checks ownership on the box ::

Yes

Apollo Gabriel
Kill'em all. Let Bob sort'em out.
Ushra'Khan
#198 - 2011-10-19 18:06:34 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Navigator
CCP I think you've identified the problem, you're stretched too thin.

However, you've taken the wrong message from it. You are INSULATING YOURSELVES MORE, as an American it amuses me to say this, you're too isolated and don't pay enough attention to the rest of the world around you.

Keeping other offices open and well staffed will HELP YOU, if you LISTEN to them.

Sadly, I've known a few of your employees and they weren't Icelandic, so well, we know how that goes.

You bought a good company, White Wolf, you trashed it, I mean truly ruined it.

You took only what you wanted, letting the rest fall to pieces, and now you're putting it on a shelf ...

too bad
Always ... Never ... Forget to check your references.   Peace out Zulu! Hope you land well!
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#199 - 2011-10-19 18:07:44 UTC
Well, this is certainly sad new.

First of all, like so many others have done, I wish to extend my condolences to those being laid off. It's certainly a bad time for it, but you have skill sets that are in reasonably high demand, so my sincere hope is that this will be but a bump in the road for you.

Secondly, while I'm saddened by the delay this will cause in a game that I was very much looking forward to, I also understand the reasoning, and I'm unfortunately not all that surprised that it came to this. As a player, I noticed that things were getting a bit thin around here, and bad decisions were being made — the summer débâcle was just the ripples of all of those decisions combining into a huge wave of wtfitude. This is made even more sad by the fact (in my eyes) that such a large part of all of that came down to simple poor communication.

Somewhere along the line, someone became unconvinced about the value of feedback and explanation, and at that point, the ability to bring people along on these crazy adventures was kind of lost… Had you been able to communicate and instil confidence in the chosen path, and made the small concessions needed to make people follow it, those numbers would probably look a lot different.

Thirdly…
SHAMESHAME wrote:
To each and every person who whined their way through the last few months, congratulations. You got your pixels, database entries and pretend warfare. Real people lost jobs. There was nothing so wrong with the game that it should have meant taking real food off the real tables of real people. It is my sincere hope that you too find yourself in the unemployment line.
…you're an idiot. The reason those people lost their jobs was because CCP made the horribly bad decision of not feeding its golden goose. There were (and still are) plenty of things wrong with the game, but had they've been attended to, people would have felt far more compelled to keep giving CCP money, which might have kept those people in their jobs. We are not a welfare agency — we are customers, and if we do not get the product we pay for, then it is right to not give the producer any money, and it is right for them to have to adjust their production to fix the issues they caused.
Alpheias
Tactical Farmers.
Pandemic Horde
#200 - 2011-10-19 18:08:16 UTC
It boggles one's mind that CCP are sacking developers & community when it is the MANAGEMENT that should be let go.

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