Missions & Complexes

Agreed, but there are MORE where the ships either spawn close or by the time you deal with what IS close the others have dropped into a close orbit (Angels/Serp are usually sub 30km). But that's the point I was making, there is no one ship that's "best" just some that are "better" for most missions than others (a Universal Mssion ship if you like), if you take the scope of ALL Factions/Regions into consideration. I fly against primarily Angel/Serpentis so using short range high DPS ships works for 90% of what I get.

INB4 "HA only a noob mixes long range and short range weapons systems, stop being bad" or some other fail comment. This guy hits the nail on the head. Even with a short range boat you can use Sentries to great effect, hell you can pull with the damn things, all the while your primary weapons are R*ping everything within range.

And the RS will be a tiny bit better after Odyssey with it's amazing ~80 DPS buff via Cruise missile dmg increase. I would love for CCP to change the bonus of the RS from Cruise/Torp range to something more useful like exp velocity as even Cruise missiles don't do great dmg on Cruiser and below without TP, and not many fit TP on the Rattlesnake for the secondary weapon system. The RS even after the Odyssey buff to it, and the nerf to TE's which will effect the Mach will still only be probably 5th or 6th best "overall" Mission ship.

People with eyes are generally offended by solid blocks of text.

The better question is why tether yourself to a single spot when you are in a ship designed to be highly mobile.

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The guy you quoted, while horribly wrong about "smoking" a BS at 100km with auto cannons, was also advocating using sentries on a mach.

Eh missions, not WH anomalies.

You TP them to pull agro and shoot the closer stuff first. Anything that comes within 77k is toast. Most missions don't spawn much further than that, or spawn multiple waves or groups.

If I'm doing it wrong lets see some of your bounty ticks.

I do use an AB on missions that warrant one, most of the ones that warrant one are **** for ISK/hour and I decline them.

Offended? Unusual use of the word. Perhaps you need to train your reading skill up to 5?

That said, I will try to post things that are a little easier on the eyes for those with fewer reading SPs.

I'm far from an expert on the subject, but I have been flying a Rattler since the drone changes (I wanted to test drones and it was the only way to quickly get into a drone boat using my Caldari mission toon), and I really have not felt the problem mentioned with the damage being that bad.

I'm sure it's not the most effective ship, but I get regular disconnects and even had a few sync issues where ships 10km away reported as "out of range", so I'm taking it safe I guess.

A lot of you are way past the point in "missioning optimization" that I am, maybe shave off 10+ minutes from a 1 hour long mission. I am fully aware that such small amounts build up quickly - ie a whole hour from say 5 missions - but many of us are still very new and a Machariel BS is a LONG train, not to mention a very expensive hull.

When missioning ship hull names are thrown around, it's often forgot that players close to a year worth of SP can't just jump ship to ship as needed, and are often forced into a limited number of hulls. For me, the Rattlesnake was the safest option, and maxing it out is allowing me to also spread into other Gallante and Caldari BS hulls.

I put a "L4 Machariel" build in EVEMon months back. It's still there, taunting me with a 66D,3H Queue. As much as I'd like to try it, that, and a 1 Billion ISK price tag, sorta puts a damper on it for the time being, the "but you can make that money back faster" argument teh only reason I kept it in there.

So. For those who haven't noticed, there's a thread for Navy Battleship changes in Odyssey!

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=235324 <==

TL;DR for CNR: cap's improving (~11% charge rate improvement), getting another mid slot, losing ROF bonus but gaining an explosion size bonus, and it's gaining another launcher to fill the utility high slot.

Running numbers, it reduces the ~30% raw increase to somewhere more in the ~15% to ~20% range, but with superior damage application, given the 10% explosion size malus that CM are getting.

Net effect -- you can get the same damage with T1 ammo as you did with Faction ammo before, or get 15% more damage with better hit against cruisers. Add in superior cap and another mid, and you've got a free painter or two. In my case, I'm going to be tweaking the fit to see if I can do away with one cap recharge module in favor of a second painter. Two new painters...?

That said, I haven't experimented with these as much as everyone else -- I got back after a break, and a CNR was an appropriate, easy jump from the Raven I used to fly for L4s. Machariel has a lot of adherents, but I suspect CNR will pick up followers with the CM buff.

Sentries on a mobile ship = very horrible idea. Most people fit sentries in EFT so they can say LOOK AT MY DPS.