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[GMVA] Statement of No Confidence: FIO Director Mentas Blaque

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Julianus Soter
Blades of Liberty
#41 - 2013-05-10 01:41:20 UTC
Having learned the primary lesson of the Minmatar, in this case I'll let the FIO make the first shot, at least on terms of Alliance-wide policy. It seems our more. . . eager corporations have already declared FIO Persona Non Grata in our area of operations. That is their prerogative.

Moira. Corporation CEO, Executor, Villore Accords, @Julianus_Soter https://zkillboard.com/alliance/99001634/

Anton Duvalier
Doomheim
#42 - 2013-05-10 02:30:33 UTC
TomHorn wrote:


You want to becareful Soter your going end like up like Karin Midular. Sanctioned by your own President Roden, carried out by your own intelligence services.

If not, your alliance must be close to being considered an enemy of the Federation.


I for one would consider that a badge of honor. Dissent is the highest form of patriotism.

Also, the FIO is not popular in the Federation. The FIO attacking a militia alliance, and one that's participated a number of high-profile victories against the Provists, would be PR suicide for the Roden administration.

"Only through many hardships Is a man stripped to his very foundations And in this He is closest to God" - Book of Missions 42:5 (Luminaire Scripture Society Edition)

Caellach Marellus
Stormcrows
#43 - 2013-05-10 04:00:41 UTC
TomHorn wrote:
Quote:
This indicates they are not releasing information, to anyone. Much less the Minmatar government.

This makes me highly suspicious of FIO motives in this situation, and directly implicates them in the escalation of the Federation/Republic crisis.


You want to becareful Soter your going end like up like Karin Midular. Sanctioned by your own President Roden, carried out by your own intelligence services.

If not, your alliance must be close to being considered an enemy of the Federation.


Of course you've compelling evidence to prove it was the FIO under Roden's directive that ordered Midular's death?

Because you're not the type to provide slanderous untruths to try and destabilise the Federation in a way that would benefit the Provists...

When your gut instincts tell you something is wrong, trust them. When your heart tells you something is right, ignore it, check with your brain first. Accept nothing, challenge everything.

Julianus Soter
Blades of Liberty
#44 - 2013-05-10 04:30:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Julianus Soter
Mentas Blaque since his bid for presidency has been known to not favor the Minmatar/Gallente alliance. I don't believe him responsible for this particular murder. But he does indeed have the necessary bias to follow a uncooperative course.

The FIO under Blaque also has significant conflict of interest holding this assassin, as the attack significantly damaged their credibility. They have a vested interest to bury any information, to keep the institution intact.

This situation requires the light of public scrutiny and criticism to correct what appear to be fundamental functional and philosophical flaws in our internal defense. The loud protestations and intimidation tactics from Thoun Gatarau, head of the Black Eagles only solidifies that fact.

Moira. Corporation CEO, Executor, Villore Accords, @Julianus_Soter https://zkillboard.com/alliance/99001634/

Phox Jorkarzul
Deep Void Merc Syndicate
#45 - 2013-05-10 04:49:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Phox Jorkarzul
TomHorn wrote:
Quote:
This indicates they are not releasing information, to anyone. Much less the Minmatar government.

This makes me highly suspicious of FIO motives in this situation, and directly implicates them in the escalation of the Federation/Republic crisis.


You want to becareful Soter your going end like up like Karin Midular. Sanctioned by your own President Roden, carried out by your own intelligence services.

If not, your alliance must be close to being considered an enemy of the Federation.


I would happily be called an enemy of the FIO and Blaque. They are both enemies of the Federation. They have made a mockery of freedoms that the Federation has lon stood for.

EDIT: my response was not posted

Blasters for life

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Nick Bete
Highsec Haulers Inc.
#46 - 2013-05-10 05:39:40 UTC
I support this initiative.

I may not care for the messenger but, that doesn't invalidate the message.
Silas Vitalia
Doomheim
#47 - 2013-05-10 05:57:09 UTC
Anton Duvalier wrote:
. The FIO attacking a militia alliance, and one that's participated a number of high-profile victories against the Provists, would be PR suicide for the Roden administration.



My Gallente politics might be a bit rusty (what with all the constant elections and will of the people nonsense) but I would think Roden or Blaque blowing up your organization would actually guarantee them re-election for the foreseeable future.

Pss. I'm trying to say no one likes your group. Even the Federation.



Sabik now, Sabik forever

Rinai Vero
Blades of Liberty
#48 - 2013-05-10 06:24:45 UTC
Silas Vitalia wrote:
Anton Duvalier wrote:
. The FIO attacking a militia alliance, and one that's participated a number of high-profile victories against the Provists, would be PR suicide for the Roden administration.



My Gallente politics might be a bit rusty (what with all the constant elections and will of the people nonsense) but I would think Roden or Blaque blowing up your organization would actually guarantee them re-election for the foreseeable future.

Pss. I'm trying to say no one likes your group. Even the Federation.





Ah, no. Our Alliance, its Member Corporations, and Soter in particular are all in perfectly good Standing with the Federation. Foolish individuals are perfectly free to voice their criticism of us, but the actions of our Pilots show clearly exactly where our loyalty is.

Regardless, if the liberty of my fellow citizens is threatened I will defend it. Whether they like me or not. Clearly the actions of the FIO contravene the basic founding articles of our Federation. Apparently there are Gallente among us who've taken a liking to Caldari fashion lately and are hard at work shining their jackboots. Here's notice that some refuse to follow them meekly.
Phox Jorkarzul
Deep Void Merc Syndicate
#49 - 2013-05-10 06:25:26 UTC
Silas Vitalia wrote:
Anton Duvalier wrote:
. The FIO attacking a militia alliance, and one that's participated a number of high-profile victories against the Provists, would be PR suicide for the Roden administration.



My Gallente politics might be a bit rusty (what with all the constant elections and will of the people nonsense) but I would think Roden or Blaque blowing up your organization would actually guarantee them re-election for the foreseeable future.

Pss. I'm trying to say no one likes your group. Even the Federation.



WHAT?!?!?!? People don't like us? Like who...

Blasters for life

https://neverpheedthetroll.blogspot.com

Anton Duvalier
Doomheim
#50 - 2013-05-10 07:35:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Anton Duvalier
Silas Vitalia wrote:


Pss. I'm trying to say no one likes your group. Even the Federation.



Ah, sticks and stones Mademoiselle Vitalia.

The Villore Accords and M. Soter are not known for being lovable, but we're also not known for dragging people out of their beds in the dead of night and throwing them into secret prisons without trial. While we can be loud and arrogant, we're not feared or hated like the FIO.

"Only through many hardships Is a man stripped to his very foundations And in this He is closest to God" - Book of Missions 42:5 (Luminaire Scripture Society Edition)

Makkal Hanaya
Revenent Defence Corperation
#51 - 2013-05-10 07:46:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Makkal Hanaya
Silas Vitalia wrote:
Pss. I'm trying to say no one likes your group. Even the Federation.

Pot, Kettle.

Render unto Khanid the things which are Khanid's; and unto God the things that are God's.

Valdezi
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#52 - 2013-05-10 08:46:19 UTC
Makkal Hanaya wrote:
Silas Vitalia wrote:
Pss. I'm trying to say no one likes your group. Even the Federation.

Pot, Kettle.


To be fair, Silas may be a savage blood drinking she-witch, but more people like her than they do Julianus, which says a fair bit about his activities and those of Moira.
Makkal Hanaya
Revenent Defence Corperation
#53 - 2013-05-10 08:55:44 UTC
I concede that Silas is far more likable than Sotar. Yes, she hangs people on meat hooks, but you don't see Asias Urazmie hoping on the IGS because Lady Vitalia dropped the idiot ball.

Render unto Khanid the things which are Khanid's; and unto God the things that are God's.

TomHorn
Horn Brothers Holdings Inc.
#54 - 2013-05-10 12:01:30 UTC  |  Edited by: TomHorn
Marellus
Quote:
Of course you've compelling evidence to prove it was the FIO under Roden's directive that ordered Midular's death?

Because you're not the type to provide slanderous untruths to try and destabilise the Federation in a way that would benefit the Provists...


Im not saying the Federation killed Midular. Your goverment is extremely dangerous. Federation death squads, holding people in prison without charge, torture.

All i was saying if Soter continues his attacks on his own goverment he may end up like Midular. If he does It would of been sanctioned by the President Roden carried out by intelligence services.

Dont tell me your not concerned about your own goverments recent actions and accusations against it Marellus. Soter is concerned and is taking stand against it. You to should take stand against them Not with words, with force.
Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#55 - 2013-05-10 14:00:45 UTC
Oh, so it's become cool to fight the FIO now?

You're about two months late to the party, Soter.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.

Caellach Marellus
Stormcrows
#56 - 2013-05-10 14:04:42 UTC
TomHorn wrote:
Marellus
Quote:
Of course you've compelling evidence to prove it was the FIO under Roden's directive that ordered Midular's death?

Because you're not the type to provide slanderous untruths to try and destabilise the Federation in a way that would benefit the Provists...


Im not saying the Federation killed Midular. Your goverment is extremely dangerous. Federation death squads, holding people in prison without charge, torture.


Not my Government Tomhorn, you need to stop making that mistake.

When your gut instincts tell you something is wrong, trust them. When your heart tells you something is right, ignore it, check with your brain first. Accept nothing, challenge everything.

Che Biko
Alexylva Paradox
#57 - 2013-05-10 15:35:47 UTC
Julianus Soter wrote:
Thoun Gatarau wrote:
When acting in the best interests of Federal Security, there is no "freedom of information". There is no "the people must know". We make decisions based on maintaining security, law, and order. That is our remit. That is our purpose.

You can feel free to petition as openly and loudly as you like. The Federal Administration will decide if and when details are released, and any such information will be communicated when it does not pose a risk to our ongoing investigations.
This indicates they are not releasing information, to anyone. Much less the Minmatar government.
I don't see these generic statements, that mostly describe Federal procedures in general, as an indication that what you think is fact.
Anton Duvalier
Doomheim
#58 - 2013-05-10 18:05:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Anton Duvalier
As someone relatively new to this charming little corner of the holonet, I'm rather taken aback by the level of vitriol and hostility here. It seems people don't have a problem so much with what M. Soter has said, but with the fact that it was he who said it.

Let's take the personalities out of the equation, and judge our statements on their own merits. I'll break down our arguments in detail, and everyone can let us know what's so reprehensible about them:

1. We believe that without Senate oversight, the FIO has become a rogue gendarmerie under the control of the executive branch. Should the FIO overstep the bounds of Federal law, the public (or even other branches of government) has no means of legal recourse. We have no confidence that without this oversight, the FIO has been or will operate either legally or in the best interests of the Federation and it's citizens.

To clarify, we are not asking the FIO to telegraph it's every move to the public. Transparency and accountability can be achieved without compromising operational security.

2. We believe that combined with this lack of accountability to the Federation public & their representatives in the legislature and judiciary, the FIO's "exclusive & unconditional" right to assume authority over any element of the government has made the president into a de-facto dictator. We have no confidence the FIO's authority will not be abused by the executive, now or in the future, and used to contravene the authority of the other branches of the Federal government (otherwise known as a coup).

3. We believe that M. Blaque's public history of discrimination against the Minmattar people makes him unsuitable to lead the FIO. We have no confidence that Monsieur Blaque is able to perform his duties without allowing his prejudices to become policy.

4. We believe that all things mentioned in prior grievances came together this week to cause an international incident with our closest ally. M. Blaque and the FIO, through deliberate prejudice or incompetence, provoked the Minmattar Republic. Although the FIO cannot be held responsible for the thoughtless actions of the Republic, they should, yet cannot, be held responsible for creating and then escalating the situation that led to the Battle of Colelie.

By this public statement of no confidence, we hope we can pressure President Roden to act in the best interests of the Gallentean people and in the spirit of Federation law. GMVA leadership is not asking for violent action against M. Blaque or his agency; only that the President remove M. Blaque from his office and reorganize our internal security efforts to align with Federation law and values.

"Only through many hardships Is a man stripped to his very foundations And in this He is closest to God" - Book of Missions 42:5 (Luminaire Scripture Society Edition)

Katrina Oniseki
Oniseki-Raata Internal Watch
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#59 - 2013-05-10 18:24:58 UTC
Anton Duvalier wrote:
As someone relatively new to this charming little corner of the holonet, I'm rather taken aback by the level of vitriol and hostility here. It seems people don't have a problem so much with what M. Soter has said, but with the fact that it was he who said it.


Hey, isn't yours the nation which determines Heads of State by how likable they are? We're just trying to play along! Honest!

Katrina Oniseki

Desra Mascani
Eleutherian Guard
#60 - 2013-05-10 18:27:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Desra Mascani
Andreus Ixiris wrote:
Oh, so it's become cool to fight the FIO now?

You're about two months late to the party, Soter.


It looks like the author of the article there overlooked one small fact about the involvement of you, mr. Ixiris. Did you bribe him or did he just miss the fact that you were in command of the activist fleet? (Oh, and the True Slave Foundations were not in that fleet but flying around trying to be disruptive.) I was there too and left the fleet after I realized what the "activists" are doing. I wasn't happy with them gasing the FIO personnel to sleep. Yet you remained and later, opened fire on FIO ships. You continue undermining the effort of Julianus and side with FIO in this. I wonder, what turned you around. Or is it just the thing Anton hinted above so nicely quoted by Ms. Oniseki?