Test Server Feedback

just been looking after new patch,


did you reduce the persistence of the brackets?

if you did they do not hang about long enough, you have to be a record holder in station spinning to get em all viewed let alone read.

remembering that on entry players have the jump cloak before moving you could possibly up the persistence as it is the on-entry scan (but make it turn-off able for those not interested) and reduce the bracket size, and then reduce the scan speed so that they just stay alive.

I see you've added a "square-y boxy glowy haze" around the unknown sigs. I suppose this is to give the impression that it has yet to be pinpointed. However, the exact position of a signature can still be seen during a warp as the bracket flies past. If you want to keep this information hidden, you might consider hiding sigs that have yet to be located for the duration of the warp. Then reveal them again with another sweep of the scanner after (or just before) the warp finishes. That way the parallax wont be so obvious.

*edit: what's worse, the glowy haze doesn't move in space after a warp. It remains where the sig used to be until you turn the overlay sweep off and back on.

*edit: This post was suppose to go to the other scanning feedback thread, disregard.

you nerf to much recon abilty, you nerf ships, structures, sites scan range by removing long range probes, you give scaner overley, wich give only anomaly and site info, and scaner overley info is not frendly, it should give info in form of list.

My general feedback from 'New Sensor Overlay' (hereon NSO) is that, I really quite like it. But it doesn't integrate very comfortably (yet).

While you're still reading I have one bug observable on sisi - the "cloud" on the grid behind a signature (which I guess since initial version, is added UI feedback to indicate a site lacks full definition) does not move with the signature when you warp.

http://i.imgur.com/CJE33Ck.jpg

- the grid cloud remains fixed as you warp across to another position. As you have to leave the overlay showing in order to see sites at all with NSO, that jumped right out in the first system I landed in. Really, just remove the cloud (or, have it them track around planets/sun/celestials so that it's not just a superimposed graphic; that's where you'd get false returns/interference. you're going to figure it's an undefined site by its shape/colour and isn't really necessary. if it's just to look cool (it is) I suggest do it on celestials (scaling to size of whatever 4au range is at that distance to indicate a stuff cloud.. and except if you're in that 4au cloud ) .

On sisi currently, how well it's pretending to do what it says it does is less than maybe it ought. I'd like it to seem like it's not been stolen and bolted on i.e. like not all my ships are minmatar. it's acting like it was a module, but it's an intrinsic part of the ship (whether people like it or not).

- NSO is basically deprecating the system scanner (currently providing the spreadsheet list). I read that was going, yet it hasn't yet; how about since it's automatically running, just dump the results from NSO after first scan (how long it takes to do a 360 sweep) into the spreadsheet like it's an actual scanner. It wouldn't be terrible to satisfy everyone would it? (except people that think it's too easy no longer have to push a button and wait ten seconds, and well, there are some).

-- if scanner were off, it wouldn't scan
-- it could be 3 switch toggle between one automatic scan overlay and dump into the system scanner *and continue to show sites found in space* (it wouldn't update for new anomalies); continuously updating (with visual); or off.

- it makes various bleeps to indicate it found sites of some sort. Though I'm not one of them many people play eve in 'maximum realism' no sound in space mode and even I don't listen to a cacophony of strange sounds when I'm running multiple clients. Add other bleeps and bloops (crimewatch) from various UI's and it's not clear what they mean or when. The scanner icon/control when running is now blue; that's visual feedback, good - how bout it's green/orange when it is running and found something.

- related, in 'one ping only' mode (which would be nice if you could just tap/hotkey for a scan - allow the user to decide if it's auto) as the sites clear away visually after running you hear beeps, but all it tells you is you have to turn it all on. leave all sites found visible in space!

- pause/ the sweeping overlay effect in warp, if we're not to assume it's scanning in warp now (the system scanner certainly fails).

- and if it's an active scanner maybe increase your signature when it's running, pops you up visible across grid like a cyno (for 10 seconds). I think that'd be awesome and is a kinda missed opportunity - i've got to say, for the pursuit of providing a pervasive visual effect as a goal, less than adding new dynamic features.

It's stated ships weren't to be included. Maybe in future for a specific ship class (covert ops, tech 3, even EAF if you wanted to boost them), they could be. I think that'd be interesting - even if it'd 'dumb down the directional scanner' to something being actually useful and visually interesting - while applying a specific role to chosen ship classes above say, a vulture, and not processing 2000 dscanners for people that don't need or want them (but don't you dare do that and remove my dscan tables). maybe after, poses, other things in space. ( and counter-scan modules that throw up false returns (even pos modules)). I think ideas like the above are the real value-add that this sensor overlay makes possible for the future, and i'm looking forward to what possibilities might be implemented. I don't pve.

pls give us an option to complettly turn that off, plus give us a list with all anomalies and make the ids copyable

As said before :

1- Nice new color for the sensor overlay, it is not giving me headaches anymore !

2- The scan effect is displayed in front of the wormhole effect. Not good :(

3- When selecting an option using the scan button, the mouse resets to the said scan button... The opposite of what a radial menu should do.

4- Blurry effect around cosmic anomalies does not follow them during warp, you have to manually hide/show the overlay again to fix this.

5- Still no sync with the scanning list.

Don't give us a list of anomalies from the sensor overlay.
It would make things too easy and trivial and dumb.

As I see it, sensor overlay was only intended to let people look around when they come into another system to see is it worth stopping there or they should go further to other systems. IT'S NOT a constant monitoring tool. And it should not become a monitoring tool.

I suspect this 'give us a list' thing is a part of true carebear dream to make "their eve" more pink-coloured and let them suffer less (carebares must suffer, btw; I, too, when I'm killing rats, etc).

its more of a ' your making us have this scan thing that we cant turn off, can you make it work with what we currently have pls'

I would be happy if.
1. this can be turned off and the scan list can only be filled the old way
2. if it cant be turned off at least make it as practical as the old push button list way

After the very recent update on SISI, here is my feedback :

Very nice new icons, they are better imo.

Cosmic signatures still not updating when scanning. (SNEAKY DEV !)
Would be nice to see the blurry area around a signature being updated to, to reflect the increase in the accuracy of the potential location of the signature.

Nice new sounds when anomal/signature detection (Bug : boarding ship in space won't trigger the sounds anymore until you switch off/on again the discovery scanner)

But said sound is not triggering properly when mousing over the signature in space, sounds like the actual hitbox is a doughnut with a hole at the middle not triggering the sound, very unintuitive.

When displaying the sensor overlay, sweeping is still running constantly and it's ANNOYING !
Although its new color from another update is less uncomfortable.