Out of Pod Experience

5-year-old Kentucky boy fatally shoots 2-year-old sister
"A Kentucky mother stepped outside of her home just for a few minutes, but it was long enough for her 5-year-old son to accidentally shoot and kill his 2-year-old sister with the .22-caliber rifle he got for his birthday, state officials said."

If you're dumb enough to let your kids kill each other, that's fine. However, if your stupidity were to get *my* kid killed...

What's the effective killing range of a .22, neighbor?

Depends how crappy your walls are.

She helped to create that monster, so no, not "poor woman," unless you are willing to extend that empathy to the child she damaged.



Individuals in society have the prerogative to implore their family, friends, and neighbors in matters of children who are being mistreated. The government (I assume that's what you mean by "society") programs designed as an oversight in this situation clearly failed. I don't know about you, but when my employees fail at their job, I don't simply throw more money at them and assume they'll do a better job next time.

Woman abuses child, child goes insane, child kills her. Sounds like an open and shut case to me. Thankfully, he didn't get the opportunity to pass on HIS genes for psychopathy.

I know of one postpartum mom who tried to drown her kid in a steam, went to a psych clinic, got out, sued for custody from the father and got it, even before she had slept around on the father while they were married. This is with the child protests to stay with the father whom is the only parent they knew.

Courts are fundamentally biased towards mothers even sometimes at the child's peril.

Because of the extremely sensitive subject, please keep in mind this is my own opinions and guesses, and is not ment to criticise anyones opinions or views. Its simply ment to express my own thoughts around the subject

I will not say that his upbringing did not affect him or what he did, but i would not blame it all on it.
There is people out there that grow up in a stable home with loving parents, good family relationship, good friends and on the outside, not a care in the world.

These people can still snap.

But it makes everyone (including the family im guessing) feel...better being able to point to something and say "This! This right here can have caused it!" You dont need any real proof of it but as long as you have that straw to hang onto, it can help support you trough a rough time.

I will use an example to explain it a bit better.
When i was a teenager my brother had a friend that was in his early 20's. Good family, good grades, known for the fact that he was always happy and friendly to everyone. No one would have suspected that he could be suffering from any mental disorders, including depressions.
He had been out drinking the night before, came home and fell asleep on the couch. He was supposed to take care of the farm that day. His father woke up and (please keep in mind that i can only judge by what i have been told) his father basically "rolled" him off the couch. From what i have been told they think he might have hit his head on the table next to the couch.
He went out and did his work, went back inside a couple of hours later and shot him self.
To this day both his family and friends are clinging on to the idea that maybe he was just a bit out of it..a combination of being hungover and the hit in the head,because it gives the whole thing a..reason..something to blame. But then again, there is no way to know for sure.

But then you have other people who grow up in the worst imaginable homes,with bad violent parent(s), abuse, drug addicts, mental abuse and no direction or confirmation that they are worth something beyond a punching bag.
Some of these people can go from a situation like that, that would ruin most people, and they come out on the other side and create a good and stable life for them self and people around them.

Mental illnesses is simply... not a thing that you can find a reason for that is "true" in all or most cases. Is it possible that someone like Breivik would not have done what he did if he grew up with his father? Sure. Is there a chance he would not have done it if child care had actually taken him away when they where advised to do so? Of course there is.
But there is also a chance that it would not have made any difference at all, and he would still have ended up doing something like this.

What happened to that woman and the boy in the article is terrible, and the father and family will spend years trying to figure out what they did wrong and what they could have done differently. But in the long run...He would most likely have snapped at some point anyway, no matter what they had changed.

On the ammo box it says a .22 LR can travel up to 2 miles if fired at the right angle

Actually, it is incredibly RESPONSIBLE to have a kid learn to respect firearms at that age. If they're well aware of how to handle themselves by age 6, you won't have them going off the rails when they reach more hormonal years.



This kind of murky anecdote floats around too much and frankly, I've never seen it substantiated. Every single killer I've ever heard of had some kind of abusive past. Even the so-called "warrior genes," aren't fully expressed unless the carrier is exposed to a LOT of duress in their formative years.

Sure, every initial news report is "oh I never knew this person would do such a thing-" but the in-depth investigation always turns up some fantastically messed up childhood.

Of course you can simply wring your hands and say that mental-illness is some mystical unknown, but that doesn't explain anything and in-fact seeks to obscure the verifiable hypotheses that could shed some light on the situation.

As I would know from personal experience.

Fortunately, I survived the court's criminal malfeasance. My younger siblings are severely damaged. To be fair, it's not my mother's fault, either - *SHE* was raised by a monster - She did the very best she could, and has never stopped trying to be better. But she will still be damaged goods to the end of her life. And she should NEVER have been allowed custody in the condition she was when granted it.

My father has faults enough, but compared to my mother, he's the very bedrock of stability.

All that said, they both had some understanding of discipline and parenting - and they can serve as bad examples in areas where they were failures. Bad examples can be useful. Kids these days are subject to the results of decades of fuzzy-headed feel-good social tinkering, and they're at a terrible disadvantage.

Boy ain't that the truth. Even a trip to the grocery store works to get an idea of the degree of non-parenting going on. Pretty unbelievable stuff going on.

In 1988, my 15 year old younger brother was shot and killed in a stupid gun accident. Two other boys of similar age were involved and ALL of them had attended and passed gun safety training. All of them were also boy scouts and came from good homes where parenting actually did take place.

Just knowing gun safety is not enough.

Sometimes, parenting isn't enough.