Wormholes

I have looked everywhere and could not find out much about the subject. I know some alliances get paid to evict corps from wormholes. Is there any profit from doing it without getting paid? like POS drops and ransom's etc. Be interesting to know from some of you if you have ever made a decent amount of ISK from a tedious task.

Thanks
SB

It's one of the most efficient ways to bore the **** off a large number of players over several days.

I hear it's also good for ego fluffing.

You might get lucky and get some decent drops but most of the time you watch people sd all their **** behind pos shields. The income even if you do get decent drops is mostly crap anyway because of the number of people needed and the sheer time commitment of it. Shooting red crosses is boring as hell but will still make you tons more isk/hour then pretty much any pos bash and the time you save you can spend looking for actual fun pvp.

I play the game for fun and not for isk and bashing poses is just as much fun as beating your hand with a sledgehammer continually.

If the defenders have any sense, they'll self-destruct and jet everything they can to minimize profits for the attackers. As a result, WH sieges are almost never done for ISK.

This is a really accurate description. POS up immediatly on contact and you might've done a first mistake. Roll their scanners out and then POS up and you made a giant mistake. Roll their scanners out, then lose a scanner to the guys you just wanted out, warp-off and pos up, afterwards write '******** *****' in local and you're mostly about to lose your assets.
Second best way to lose your POS is to raise it with a SOLAR RENTER ticker. They also tend to SD everything instead of going for a fight with cap-advantage, so sieging them on sight is kinda routine now.


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Heh, 6 AM Sunday is better than 6 AM Monday :)

So everyone seems to agree here that you don't evict people for the ISK. I have always wanted to try this though, sounds like you you get a lot of satisfaction from evicting people who get too comfortable in their wormholes. Calling it "Home" for so long they actually believe it to be true.

I once killed an abandoned SMA and had the same bug where it dropped a can then went away. Is this something CCP are going fix? Seems like a pretty awefull bug.

How about some strategy on how to go about the daunting task of evicting someone from a wormhole? The amount of times i have been into a lowclass c2/c3 and seen a badly defended POS with capitals inside. What sort of equipment we going to need and what sort of numbers for taking down a smallish corp with a large tower that's poorly defended?

Thanks for your help
SB

We blew up a guy's POS once. It wasn't really aggression more than an "educational service". You don't put up a small POS in a C3 with two guns on it and not expect a drive by.

It was actually stronted, which surprised me but we made a couple of billion on the loot once it was down.

Boring as all hell but sometimes people who wave their bare buttocks in the wind just need to be spanked.

I"ve also been involved in a couple of defense ops in wormholes that were attacked. What you might not realize when you attack a corp in a WH is that often they seem small and harmless but they can easily be alts of people with a lot of friends. That's what happened in one case where a guy we knew got his POS attacked by some Russians. He batphoned me and we got some guys together to help him out.

The Russians incapped his POS and went to bed and by the time they got up the next morning there were 80 of us camping their ****-caged incapped toe-hold. We had moved the exit several times getting our stuff in, put a bubble up where the old exit used to be, got their prober on the first try and i think we eventually podded all but one of them back to where they came from.

The point being that you never know. I think if you're really intent on attacking someone in a WH that you need to do your homework before you poke the beehive.

1. Get scanners in target wh
2. Find kspace exits and seed/start eviction
3. Drop friendly tower
4. Reinforce defenders 'main' tower first
5. Hold wh control
6. Kill tower
7. Repeat steps 4-6 for other towers

Start siege Thursday night so main pos comes out Saturday and other pos come out Sunday. Bring lots of ammo way more then you think you'll need. In lowclass wh the more people the better to make pos bashing go faster. Amarr BS and oracles work well for this.

For badly defended tower 4 logi should be plenty to keep you alive. Depends on tower setup and gunners. The problem with evictions isn't usually tower bashing. Its the monotonous 23/7 wh control.

Equipment: Large minmatar pos. 3-6 Neuts/large arty/large auto/webs/disrupts, med ac, couple small auto/arty (for bombers), white noise and spatial destabs on your tower. And plenty of gunners incase they hit your pos (which is what you want them to do!).

this...


once some null corp WH operation with 2 caps and few subcaps decided to evict one of our alt corps (1 person with few alts living in a high class wh) - they have been doing this for days, evicting wh and moving to the next one.

It was back in Narwhales Ate My Duck times. We brought 100+ ships (which was second biggest fleet in that time in WH's - bigger was only during russians invasion on VoC.

We planted log-off trap in that wh and waited. they logged in, pos went out of RF. they warped, entered siegie/triage... and died few minutes later :)


And I also agree with everyone before - pos siegieng is PITA, boring, cause spontaneous combustion and can give you cancer. So avoid it unless You hate someone or someone is paying You big time for you nerves.