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Game Market Issues/O.O and much more Like GENERAL EVE CONDITIONS
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Piratetrader
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#1 - 2013-05-06 17:28:15 UTC
I want to bring up some game facts, I just want to point 2 things out about the ship market to everyone. This also affects every other part of the game.

1. Everyone is selling Titans and Super carriers because they are not worth the isk sink. its a glorified movable JB is all or a oversized but easy to kill SC if they are alone.

2. The Cost to build a Titan is less then 65B isk but has been selling at almost double the actual isk cost that's 100% markup. (SC is about 19 to 20B and sell at 28B that's just less then 50%) Wish I could get 100% markup on all ships like you can on the Titan. I would be freaking rich, and yes I know what it takes to build including space and protection so no need to flame just pointing out facts.. BS have a markup of about 5 to 10% so why so much markup on the SC and Titan, well let me tell you.


They don't want you to have them that way your small Corp/Alliance and you will never own space. CEO's of the 0.0 entity's control the space with there massive clusters of endless, and mindless drones, yes I called 99.9% of you drones. I was in many of the big alliances for the last 10 years, but when I was in TEST. I ran into something new (Control of Votes to get a CSM seat) we were all told how to vote on the last CSM, so who really controls the systems of EVE? The developers or the Players? Yes they want us to control are own game and move it to new area's that they themselves can never accomplish, but yet they have the ability to either take or give to change everything in the game. You spend all your time and isk to try and help your Corp just to later be kicked or cast aside by them. I like those mechanics of this game, but it seems to miss a lot of issues that would keep the game more stabilized and fun for all not just the few that can afford to buy Plex to get there Supers or Titans let alone all the other mistakes. If you want to join PL or any of the Powerhouses all you have to do is spend 3-6K on Plex and buy a Titan, or SC.

I will never quit and hope they fix issues like this that still exist, but the truth always hurts and most like to ignore it.
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#2 - 2013-05-06 17:35:45 UTC
So youre mad because you cant afford a Titan?

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2013-05-06 17:37:23 UTC
tldr: I suck at this game and its your fault.

Sugar Von MurdererTits : Jake Warbird gets my vote for most intriguing and attractive male character in Eve.
Piratetrader
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#4 - 2013-05-06 17:37:35 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
So youre mad because you cant afford a Titan?



No I got one, and like most trolls you missed the point to the topic. Not surprising your in the 99.9% for sure.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#5 - 2013-05-06 17:44:07 UTC
Piratetrader wrote:
I will never quit and hope they fix issues like this that still exist, but the truth always hurts and most like to ignore it.
Fix what? You didn't really present a problem…

Quote:
No I got one, and like most trolls you missed the point to the topic.
Maybe if you were more to the point and rambled less about irrelevant tangents…?
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#6 - 2013-05-06 17:44:47 UTC
Piratetrader wrote:
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
So youre mad because you cant afford a Titan?



No I got one, and like most trolls you missed the point to the topic. Not surprising your in the 99.9% for sure.


So youre mad because PL wont let you in. Got it.

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Lykouleon
Noble Sentiments
Second Empire.
#7 - 2013-05-06 17:45:49 UTC
Welcome to Capitalism.

Lykouleon > CYNO ME CLOSER so I can hit them with my sword
Moron McClue
House Lannister
#8 - 2013-05-06 17:48:15 UTC
There is a large markup because there is a large risk. You can build a battleship in any station with a factory and there's no chance of it being destroyed before completion, and it will only be destroyed before sale if it's killed during transport.

When you're building a super you leave tens of billions of isk floating in space with no chance of recovery should things go badly. Profit in EVE is a calculation of risk/reward, if you've been playing for ten years then you appear to have missed one of the game's core rules.
Varius Xeral
Doomheim
#9 - 2013-05-06 17:48:49 UTC
Confirming all titans are bought with rl cash, and not just being the last nerd standing when all your friends have quit the game and left you their stuff.

Official Representative of The Nullsec Zealot Cabal
Vera Algaert
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2013-05-06 17:50:47 UTC
1. titans are so bad nobody wants them.

2. people want titans so badly that they are willing to pay a 100% markup over mineral price.

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CompleteFailure
DAWGS Corp.
Negative Feedback
#11 - 2013-05-06 17:52:26 UTC
WAH WAH WAH WAH TOO FEW HAVE TOO MUCH WAH WAH WAH WHY CAN'T I BE RICH TOO CCP?!?!?

Entitled much?
E-2C Hawkeye
HOW to PEG SAFETY
#12 - 2013-05-06 17:53:18 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
So youre mad because you cant afford a Titan?


LOL NEVER underestimate a trolls ability to read peoples mind and not what was written.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#13 - 2013-05-06 17:55:10 UTC
Not seeing the issue here.
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
#14 - 2013-05-06 17:56:03 UTC
Vera Algaert wrote:
1. titans are so bad nobody wants them.

2. people want titans so badly that they are willing to pay a 100% markup over mineral price.


He was on a rant, logic had to take a back seat.

I don't judge people by their race, religion, color, size, age, gender, or ethnicity. I judge them by their grammar, spelling, syntax, punctuation, clarity of expression, and logical consistency.
E-2C Hawkeye
HOW to PEG SAFETY
#15 - 2013-05-06 17:56:07 UTC  |  Edited by: E-2C Hawkeye
Tippia wrote:
Piratetrader wrote:
I will never quit and hope they fix issues like this that still exist, but the truth always hurts and most like to ignore it.
Fix what? You didn't really present a problem…

Quote:
No I got one, and like most trolls you missed the point to the topic.
Maybe if you were more to the point and rambled less about irrelevant tangents…?

He pointed out several issues, but as usual because you dont agree with them you refuse to see them or acknowledge them.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#16 - 2013-05-06 17:59:03 UTC
E-2C Hawkeye wrote:

He pointed out several issues, but as usual because you dont agree with them you refuse to see them or acknowledge them.


Yea go ahead and point them out. All I got was the titans are so bad nobody wants them but everyone who gets them wants them so bad they will pay a 100% markup.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#17 - 2013-05-06 17:59:54 UTC
E-2C Hawkeye wrote:
He pointed out several issues.
Good. Then you can list them.
I noticed he made a number of claims (with little to no reasoning behind them), but not real problems.
E-2C Hawkeye
HOW to PEG SAFETY
#18 - 2013-05-06 18:09:18 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
E-2C Hawkeye wrote:

He pointed out several issues, but as usual because you dont agree with them you refuse to see them or acknowledge them.


Yea go ahead and point them out. All I got was the titans are so bad nobody wants them but everyone who gets them wants them so bad they will pay a 100% markup.

I will not be wasting my time trying to get you and your troll buddies to see what issues the OP is reffering to. Some things reguire an open mind. Since you dont agree with with what he said then you can not even acknowledge his point of view.

I understand what the OP was trying convieing. Should you need clarification please ask the OP as I will not be taking that stroll down the Troll road.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#19 - 2013-05-06 18:11:12 UTC
E-2C Hawkeye wrote:

I will not be wasting my time trying to get you and your troll buddies to see what issues the OP is reffering to. Some things reguire an open mind. Since you dont agree with with what he said then you can not even acknowledge his point of view.

I understand what the OP was trying convieing. Should you need clarification please ask the OP as I will not be taking that stroll down the Troll road.


So I caught you telling lies again.
E-2C Hawkeye
HOW to PEG SAFETY
#20 - 2013-05-06 18:12:51 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
E-2C Hawkeye wrote:

I will not be wasting my time trying to get you and your troll buddies to see what issues the OP is reffering to. Some things reguire an open mind. Since you dont agree with with what he said then you can not even acknowledge his point of view.

I understand what the OP was trying convieing. Should you need clarification please ask the OP as I will not be taking that stroll down the Troll road.


So I caught you telling lies again.


The lie would be if I said you were open minded.
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