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Why do i have a giant turd in my hanger? Gah my poor ark...
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Arronicus
State War Academy
Caldari State
#21 - 2013-05-07 00:20:47 UTC
Amarrian ships have always looked like giant turds and spacedicks. Why has it all of a sudden become cause for concern?

Revenant = Spikey giant bulbous turd.
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#22 - 2013-05-07 00:27:16 UTC
Arronicus wrote:
Revenant = Spikey giant bulbous turd.


The Revenant is a reminder to only eat the INSIDE of a Sea Urchin.

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Anarchist4000
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#23 - 2013-05-07 00:39:47 UTC
Quote:
Anarchist4000 wrote:
If an artist thought the new paint job on the Ark is better than before he needs fired.


This... this is not how you get anything accomplished. Try a bug report or a petition or something. But this **** is just unacceptable. You should feel ashamed of yourself.

-Liang


Petitioning and bug reporting never gets results from CCP, that has been tried and failed many times. All you accomplish by doing that is letting 1 guy at CCP know your unhappy about it and they usually just close the petition without doing anything anyways. That's why we've had near game breaking bugs, such as the overview bug due to standings information not being pulled, that can determine which fleets win/lose due to friendly fire for well over a year. The best way to make CCP change something is to cause so much fuss over it in public areas that they fix it to avoid bad PR. Bad PR is always what makes CCP fix something. I wish constructive criticism and petitions worked but CCPs track record says otherwise.
Evei Shard
Shard Industries
#24 - 2013-05-07 00:52:23 UTC
I am a little disappointed with the Ark *and* the Providence, but can live with it.

The one that really frustrates me is the Obelisk. Of the four freighters, it shows the most pixelization/artifacting/distortion in the overall texture. It looks hideous when you look at it closely. I had hoped they would have fixed this with the V3, but no such luck.

Profit favors the prepared
SpoonRECKLESS
Beach Boys
The Minions.
#25 - 2013-05-07 00:56:12 UTC
Guys there doing this on purpose. When the paint shop comes out and cost isk to paint that ugly turd a better color ISK SINK HOLE!!!

Blue
Arduemont
Rotten Legion
#26 - 2013-05-07 10:41:08 UTC
What is wrong with all you people? Don't you touch my new Providence texture!

"In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." www.stateofwar.co.nf
Abditus Cularius
Clancularius Industries
#27 - 2013-05-07 10:43:55 UTC
I'd feel bad for your Ark if I didn't fly a Nomad.

Spacecamo FTL.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#28 - 2013-05-07 10:46:21 UTC
Arduemont wrote:
What is wrong with all you people?
Tritanopia or some advanced precious-metal food poisoning by the sound of it.
Princess Saskia
Hyperfleet Industries
#29 - 2013-05-07 10:54:17 UTC
I like how you all think the ark is brown, its actualt deep red kinda like the paladin... and absoloution

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Teen Skord
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#30 - 2013-05-07 11:27:44 UTC
Arduemont wrote:
First, they look awesome. Second CCP will next be changing the lighting conditions in Eve which is supposed to make Amarr especially look better with the new V3s. So be patient... or just stop complaining. Preferably both.

Hope this is true. I love the new textures but hate how everything is dark now :/
Xpaulusx
Naari LLC
#31 - 2013-05-07 11:45:31 UTC
The Revenant is a reminder that terrible artist can still make a living, even at CCP.

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dark heartt
#32 - 2013-05-07 11:54:32 UTC
Blah blah you don't like the changes to the ships. Deal with it.

http://tetrisisunrealistic.blogspot.com.au/
dark heartt
#33 - 2013-05-07 11:56:19 UTC
Anarchist4000 wrote:
Quote:
Anarchist4000 wrote:
If an artist thought the new paint job on the Ark is better than before he needs fired.


This... this is not how you get anything accomplished. Try a bug report or a petition or something. But this **** is just unacceptable. You should feel ashamed of yourself.

-Liang


Petitioning and bug reporting never gets results from CCP, that has been tried and failed many times. All you accomplish by doing that is letting 1 guy at CCP know your unhappy about it and they usually just close the petition without doing anything anyways. That's why we've had near game breaking bugs, such as the overview bug due to standings information not being pulled, that can determine which fleets win/lose due to friendly fire for well over a year. The best way to make CCP change something is to cause so much fuss over it in public areas that they fix it to avoid bad PR. Bad PR is always what makes CCP fix something. I wish constructive criticism and petitions worked but CCPs track record says otherwise.


This isn't bad PR however. This is a subjective opinion. Just because you don't like it, doesn't make it bad.

http://tetrisisunrealistic.blogspot.com.au/
Morganta
The Greater Goon
#34 - 2013-05-07 12:41:00 UTC
Liang Nuren wrote:
Anarchist4000 wrote:
If an artist thought the new paint job on the Ark is better than before he needs fired.


This... this is not how you get anything accomplished. Try a bug report or a petition or something. But this **** is just unacceptable. You should feel ashamed of yourself.

-Liang


CCP staff are not supposed to make their alts so obvious, you should feel ashamed of yourself
Liang Nuren
No Salvation
Divine Damnation
#35 - 2013-05-07 14:53:47 UTC
Morganta wrote:
Liang Nuren wrote:
Anarchist4000 wrote:
If an artist thought the new paint job on the Ark is better than before he needs fired.


This... this is not how you get anything accomplished. Try a bug report or a petition or something. But this **** is just unacceptable. You should feel ashamed of yourself.

-Liang


CCP staff are not supposed to make their alts so obvious, you should feel ashamed of yourself


I have literally a 0% chance of ever working at CCP. Or don't you remember Incarnagate?

-Liang

I'm an idiot, don't mind me.
Katrina Oniseki
Oniseki-Raata Internal Watch
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#36 - 2013-05-07 14:59:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Katrina Oniseki
Anarchist4000 wrote:

Petitioning and bug reporting never gets results from CCP, that has been tried and failed many times. All you accomplish by doing that is letting 1 guy at CCP know your unhappy about it and they usually just close the petition without doing anything anyways. That's why we've had near game breaking bugs, such as the overview bug due to standings information not being pulled, that can determine which fleets win/lose due to friendly fire for well over a year. The best way to make CCP change something is to cause so much fuss over it in public areas that they fix it to avoid bad PR. Bad PR is always what makes CCP fix something. I wish constructive criticism and petitions worked but CCPs track record says otherwise.


If you feel so strongly about it, try coming up with a well constructed and well reasoned post instead. Give CCP the full breakdown on not only why you feel the current design is lacking, but also some ideas on how it could be improved. Give them reasons and methods to devote more time (read: money) into reworking the current designs beyond simply saying you don't like it. Try sitting down with some colored pencils and paper and draw up some alternate color schemes. Don't tell me you can't do that either. It's basically a giant oval with some blocky stuff underneath. Not hard to draw.

If you're more interested in using community pressure than any sort of constructive feedback, then make use of the community. Start a survey and ask people to post their opinions. Gather together opinions and feedback about the new Carthum colors (Ark, Paladin, Guardian, etc...) and thus create a place for CCP to easily see what public opinion is on it.

All you've done so far is whine and suggest that skilled and dedicated people begin losing their livelihoods because they painted an internet spaceship a color you don't like. That's petulant whining, not constructive feedback or bad PR. If you think saying things like that will get you results, you've got another thing coming.

I doubt you'll take any of my advice though, because you're probably content to sit here and shitpost on the forums instead of doing anything constructive for the game.

Katrina Oniseki
Vaihto Ehto
#37 - 2013-05-07 15:28:20 UTC
If you guys don't like your Arks I will gladly take them off you hands and won't even charge anything. Put contracts up wherever you want.

IMHO the Ark looks amazing.

Why would you not use an alt to post on the forums?
Dring Dingle
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#38 - 2013-05-07 15:40:24 UTC
Even the providence... IMO..... Has lost something. Darkening it just doesn't seem right, was so bright and pretty before :3
Anarchist4000
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#39 - 2013-05-07 22:03:00 UTC
Quote:
If you feel so strongly about it, try coming up with a well constructed and well reasoned post instead. Give CCP the full breakdown on not only why you feel the current design is lacking, but also some ideas on how it could be improved. Give them reasons and methods to devote more time (read: money) into reworking the current designs beyond simply saying you don't like it. Try sitting down with some colored pencils and paper and draw up some alternate color schemes. Don't tell me you can't do that either. It's basically a giant oval with some blocky stuff underneath. Not hard to draw.


I'm guessing you would expect me to send this to CCP through a petition which I already clearly stated never gets results based on past history. And in regards to how it can be improved is simple, revert to the previous textures. These ships looked great before, I don't recall every hearing someone complain about them in the past, why would they even bother changing them to begin with.

Quote:
If you're more interested in using community pressure than any sort of constructive feedback, then make use of the community. Start a survey and ask people to post their opinions. Gather together opinions and feedback about the new Carthum colors (Ark, Paladin, Guardian, etc...) and thus create a place for CCP to easily see what public opinion is on it.


Maybe you misunderstood why someone else created this thread on the forums to begin with. And yes this is bad PR even if its not in every gaming news site covering the game. Creating threadnaughts on a topic is what draws even more people into reading it, so the more replies the topic gets, the more likely someone is to notice it. Unfortunately there are only so many pilots who would even be flying an Ark so most people probably wouldn't even care because they never see the ship.

Quote:
I doubt you'll take any of my advice though, because you're probably content to sit here and shitpost on the forums instead of doing anything constructive for the game.


If you think making a post complaining about something on the forums isn't constructive your sadly mistaken. Negative publicity is pretty much a proven method of getting something done, ask any politician or ask even CCP since **** posting about an expansion such as Incarna lead them to stop work on an entire expansion and refocus on other areas of the game.

Do I like being negative? No, but sadly it tends to be an effective method of getting change. The more replies the thread gets, the more people will read it. Complaining about something on a public forum is bad PR, I'm amazed you could even think otherwise.
Benteen
Atra Mortis Industries
#40 - 2013-05-07 22:36:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Benteen
I want to fly an Ark... but with the current texture i'm seriously considering training for Caldari boats and using a Rhea instead as it looks ALOT better... the OLD Ark colourization was far nicer....

Ark = Not amused in the least bit... it was gorgous before but now looks a bit... well not good. Evil

Rhea = FAR better looking... on my list of ships to get now (I'm not a fan of camo).

Nomad = GAH!!! MY EYES!!!!

Anshar = Nice... I'd consider flying this now.
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