Science & Industry

as soon as you can fit t2 strips you should start training for t2 crystals. t2 strips with t2 crystals are a 16% yield bonus over t1 strips.

as for corps, i have no idea, mining corps are generally terrible and all you'll end up with is loss mails from awoxes, and war decs, and an empty wallet from "ore buyback" schemes which are only a *** paper away from being a scam.

question 3 and 1 are basically the same, so, as soon as you can use t2 strips.

http://www.eve-wiki.net/index.php?title=The_Complete_Miner's_Guide_by_Halada a lot of it is out of date, but a lot more is still relevant and correct. generally anything relating to ship yields/fittings is out of date, but refining, ore locations, and the maths are still correct.

Hi buddy and welcome to Eve.

1. This really just depends on your personal preference. Eve is a very, very long term game. So, getting your basic (unspecialized) refining skills are not too time demanding. The question you should ask yourself, though, is consider how much is being wasted from your current yield from your venture. The venture is a great newbie mining ship, but it doesn't really mine that much in comparison to other mining barges.

Let me put it another way. What will give you more minerals: refining at 80% with an ore mound of 1,000 or refining at 60% of 10,000? The answer is the later option. My greater point here is worry about refining skills later until you have a mining barge. You'll be surprised how much faster a mining barge will mine than a venture, and also how much faster an exhumer can mine than a mining barge.

My greater point: worry about your refining skills when you are intaking a lot more minerals than what you are getting from your venture.

2. You absorb your corporation's standings toward NPC corporations. I was under the assumption this would apply for refining rates as well, but other posters are saying otherwise. My advice: grind the standing with an NPC corporation yourself so you aren't hostage to a specific corporation.

3. I'd say this kind of relates to my answer in #1. You have so much for your character learn, and I think you would have better luck investing your time elsewhere first than specific ore reprocessing. With the upcoming resource changes, I would advise you to make yourself open to the upcoming changes. In other words: don't quite specialize yet, but get the skills you know you're going to need anyway (GENERAL refining skills, mining barges skill, exhumers skill, hauling skills (to get your ore/minerals to market), hell maybe even basic shield/drone skills.

I think you might have mentioned this in the beginning of your post, but I'd like to point out that for many new and upcoming miners, it is often more profitable to straight up sell your ore first than to refine your ore and then sell the minerals. Also, you should factor in opportunity cost with all of your work. Meaning, don't waste your time hauling your ore 30 jumps away just to get a 1% better price. Until you have major tonnage of ore/minerals (and have your own freighter), big movements of assets across long spaces are generally not worth your time. So, sell your ore/minerals as locally as possible -- or go mining near a market.

What you also need to consider is whether you want to specialize only in mining or if you want to additionally delve into industry or hauling. Mining by itself is useless. You're going to have to haul your own stuff to a market or pay someone to do it. Moreover, a lot of new players feel like making stuff out of the ore they produced. I would highly discourage you from getting into manufacturing until you've amassed enough money to buy a BPO with decent ME/PE -- but only after you have done a healthy amount of market research on the desired commodity you want to make. My greater point here is you're going to need to train a little bit of hauling skills anyway, but I'm trying to discourage you from manufacturing until you have a healthier financial situation.

Also, as someone mentioned above, be weary of strictly mining/industrial corporations that have small amounts of members. You'll often find griefers posing as miners who join, kill your entire mining operation, and then go on to the next industrial corporation. Low populated industry corporations regularly get war dec'd and hazed to oblivion. A mining/industrial corporation with 50+ members and part of a decently sized alliance would be more ideal, but are still highly vulnerable. Keep in mind, you don't ever have to join a corporation as a miner -- but you get out of Eve what you put into it. You might get lonely staying in an NPC corporation, but there are plenty of player channels you can go to to chat to pass the time.

If you have more questions (or if any newbie reading this has questions), feel free to post here or contact me in game -- my other character is Allbrecht.

Good luck with your Eve career.

--Alb

I forgot your other question. I would not join a specific mining/industry player run corporation as they are a magnet for war decs and aggro. A low profile is usually the best option unless you are actively looking for combat & conflict.


Also always watch 'local' channel but NEVER speak in 'local' channel. And if you lose your ship to a suicide gank say NOTHING and move on. Giving the offending party 'QQ'/tears is only counter-productive and will end in more tears.

Thanks for the great responses guys!

I'm definitely interested in training up to better haulers but I've got a related question:

When I mine in the venture and later in the retriever, is it better simply to find systems with high buy prices for ores and mine the ores in system as I find them OR should I focus on mining a crap out of single system and using a hauler to ship the ores to high buy systems later?

Other than that, I am going to be pretty picky about my corps, I want something big and very active that at least covers mining and some light PVP. I guess a group that is A) Big B) Runs frequent mining ops and C) has PVP muscle too.

Would you guys recommend searching online for a corp to join or are the in game tools any good for that? I realize this is a bit off topic but I figure people who know more about mining would give better answers for my specific case.