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How much isk would you consider to be very rich?
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Mantra Achura
Stammtisch
#41 - 2011-10-23 13:02:56 UTC
Companion Qube wrote:

It's kind of true, I had a much harder time going from 10m to 10b than I did going from 10b to 100b. I think I spent most of my eve time from 10b to 100b completely drunk, before that I had to think a bit.


For me it has been quite the opposite. Going from 10m to 10b isn't that hard. The earnings you can make with active trading, production, etc. is limited. Production slots, number of orders, the market itsself, ... everything is limited.

Even with simple fast trading on station you can make high profits percentage wise if your investments are low. But the more money you have the more money you have to invest and the lower the oportunities you have to make more out of your money.

I'm currently at the 400 bill mark NAV-wise and I don't know where to invest anymore, that's fact! The best oportunity to make more money is speculation and let the market work for you over time.
Jenny Tailia
MoonGoo4U
#42 - 2011-11-03 00:51:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Jenny Tailia
How about this -

100 million ISK (or less): Serf
100 million - 1 billion ISK: Prole
1 billion – 10 billion ISK : Comfortable
11 billion -100 billion ISK: Well Off
100 billion - 1 trillion ISK: Rich
1 trillion – 5 trillion ISK : Super Rich
5 trillion and over : Oligarch

Personally on my scale I fall into the 'comfortable' category.
Nimrod Nemesis
Doomheim
#43 - 2011-11-03 02:07:28 UTC
Taedrin wrote:

1 billion - 100 billion ISK: Veteran carebears, casual traders/industrialist, market aware PvPer. Veteran carebears in this category are stuck here. They are risk averse and compulsive savers. Because they generally run missions, they will probably never cross the 100 billion ISK barrier. Casual traders/industrialists stay in this category simply because they do not want to work hard. Successful traders/industrialists will inevitably pass this category.

100 billion - 1 trillion ISK: Traders, industrial tycoons( and small alliance leaders?). Players in this category didn't earn this much money on their own merit. Instead they profit off of the laziness and foolishness of others. Traders and industrial tycoons in this category have "done their homework". However, only the most successful traders and industrialists will surpass this level, as it becomes difficult to efficiently invest this much ISK.


Good bit of truth there. I fell from Profiteer to "market aware PvPer," some time over the last year and it's been way too much :effort: for me to rebound. I simply CBA to monitor investments at this point so i'm slowly eroding my wealth into paycheck-pvp'er.
JitaJane
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#44 - 2011-11-03 06:06:51 UTC
moar.

90% of of the time my posts are about something I actually find interesting and want to learn more about. Do not be alarmed.

Zendon Taredi
Tier Four Technologies
#45 - 2011-11-03 13:12:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Zendon Taredi
10m euro would be enough for me.
Chevalleis
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#46 - 2011-11-03 13:15:43 UTC
There is not enough ISK in EvE Online.
Cyniac
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#47 - 2011-11-03 14:42:45 UTC
One trillion ISK.

Cool
Personal Banker
Universal Eve Lending Corp
#48 - 2011-11-03 15:28:33 UTC
Even though I am new to eve it is kinda like real life, 10-15 years ago everyone thought 1m dollars for retirement was a perfect amount, well now in 2011 1m saved for retirement will only equal out to around 40,000 a year (avg person living 25 years post retirement, 1m/25=40k). Same with eve to me 10m isk was alot now I have close to 1b it doesn't seem like enough, and I hate when it drops below it.

I would say it has to depend on what you are doing in eve, if you are a titan/carrier pilot you need billions to cover any losses and to start with initially so I would guess around 100b-250b, but if you are more industry i would say 25b-75b depending on operations.

-Chris
Tasko Pal
Spallated Garniferous Schist
#49 - 2011-11-03 15:52:57 UTC
For me, the more interesting question is how is the perception changing? As a number of people have mentioned, a billion in wealth used to be a lot more exclusive than it currently is. It sounds like, with the current isk sources in the game, that we'll see our view of what is wealthy continue to climb, even if that wealth still buys most of what it does today (such as capital ships, t1 stuff, and faction).
Wahad Bredkebir
badslaves
#50 - 2011-11-03 17:30:25 UTC
lol it took me a month to make my first million and i felt very rich that day ! ok it was back in 2003
Barakach
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#51 - 2011-11-03 17:37:20 UTC
Show me a bell curve of the ISK value per person and I will point to the top 10%.
Singeabooty Raj
Doomheim
#52 - 2011-11-03 18:16:24 UTC
Having enough isk to crush the aspiring dreams of other players when one choses.

Black Man with Goggles
Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
#53 - 2011-11-03 21:34:56 UTC
About a month ago I asked in a separate thread how much ISK was sitting in all the wallets combined in the game. I was ignoring all hard assets.

CCP responded that as of 4th quarter QEN, there was 445 trillion in all the wallets combined.
That number is now a year out of date.

Based on my own gut feeling looking at various faction items (I consider them the equivalent as gold as a hedge against inflation/increased money supply), I would hazard a guess that the money supply in the game is pushing 500 trillion now.

CCP has about 380,000 subs I believe, give or take 10,000.
So every account on TQ is around 1.3 billion in ISK.
Now, that number is kind of wrong based on how much ISK is sitting in corporate wallets, but that corporate money can still be added to the pot to calculate net wallet ISK/account.

Based on that, 100 times average wallet ISK puts you at about 130 billion to be considered wallet rich.
I have a long, long way to go.
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