EVE General Discussion

+1
for the main issues



give small corps a chance to settle in 0.0. i don't care how. i want a heavily fragmented sov map, with hundrets of different small/med sized corps around. heavy sovmap fragmentation fuels a lot of conflict, provides lots of small scale pew pew, opportunity for "logging in and having a casual pvp experience", but it gives a meaning to what you do, more importantly, it gives you a reason to defend what you have claimed, because this is your small space in the big universe, you've raised your flag there and naturally you will want to keep it up.

nothing of whats going on right now in 0.0 is like that. fragment the sovmap, and see the true potential of this game rise and shine.

what would bring me to null?

POS structures that have better benefits in Null than the benefits of High Sec Stations in regards to Manufacturing and Refining.
I am an industrialist, so naturally I would want a POS in null to exceed the refining capabilities of those in High-Sec. High-Sec promotes industrial capitalism and ease of access is rewarded with better refining times and more production slots.

+1

also, i have been bowling over a few ideas for FW and Pirate Warfare for Null.
Some like it, some don't.
I think its a good way to get more small to midsized alliances and corps in Null and will add a dynamic faction warfare system for taking SOV or if not taking SOV, clearing it.

the idea is more like a way to take SOV in a faction warfare environment, where all these corps and alliances have banded together under one flag to help NPC space take over SOV in systems with extremely low population and traffic. The new missions would be handed out by FW agents, similar to the FW system now, but exclusively for NULL.
(please note this will be an added feature, not a revamp of anything thats already in place)

so say for example you take a NULL FW mission from a FW agent in any station that has FW agents/offices. The NULL mission is a phased siege on a system to either remove the SOV claim from the holding corp/alliance and free it up. an option, that i would think would be interesting is once the system has been freed, the next stages of helping the NPC corp move in and claim the space. this would be done by the NPC FW agent giving mining missions, combat missions and distribution/delivery missions. mission rewards would be equivalent to those that you would receive for doing agent missions in high-sec, but with a purpose. deliveries of minerals in a hauling mission would pay for the haul, minerals would be put in an escrow/holding tank, where once the player delivers/deposits the minerals needed, the mission is updated for EVERYONE THAT HAS IT, this would not be an individual mission, it would be collaborative effort for everyone who has taken the mission. Once the NPC has received all the trit needed, they move on to the amount of pyrite needed, etc. Once all these minerals have been provided, that stage of the mission expires, players get their additional payouts and loyalty points/standings. and the next stage begins. building of Faction or NPC corp structures in NULL. Once all the structures have been built, anchored and activated, the NPC faction or Pirate NPC faction will claim SOV. The end result is a new NPC/Faction Null Sec system, still 0.0, where security status with the faction or NPC corp is based off your standings towards those entities. PvP will still occur naturally and this system WILL create an influx of players from all sorts of play styles to participate. Since the stages will be spaced out over time, it will also create a way for casual players to get involved.

Once the system is settled, and the player/corp or alliance standings have been awarded, the system begins to be populated by that NPC or Factions Ships, escalated by ship size based off of system SOV upgrades. BUT these ships are friendly (with appropriate standings) and will come to the aid of players in that system who are being attacked by hostiles. Much like concord but in reduced numbers. there will be NPCS patrolling belts, gates, stations, POS's and customs offices.

while engaged in FW in NULL the hard part is to decided whether or not CCP would want to allow for friendly/green PVP. I think that if it were allowed, that it would be counter productive. The idea and purpose of this system is a PVP and PVE mechanism that will promote cooperation among like minded players, a medium for exchange of ideas and interactions all for the common goal.

this removes and settles various complaints for some players who do not want to be part of a huge player alliance and forced to play by their rules. it creates dynamic PVE/PVP content that is ever changing, it's still player generated content because the players have to participate for the campaign to be successful, it allows for casual gaming for all avenues of play styles.

i do understand your point of view and i even agree under the current atmosphere
Icertainly do not hate the gamer i love it too much for it ,hating players never i might disagree but hatred is way to strong word

On the other hand you did wrote donw the main reason and problem of why so many people turn their back to nullsec

Merge with a bigger group.

For me it means that you have to give up your independence , your corp and alliance you ve been working hard for to create and to break all bonds with what you have build up over months and even year just to become part of the blob and where nobody will trust you because you the newest member or your corp is the newest member of the alliance and noway will anyone trust you or your corp

This is the problem and this is why so many people don't want to go , you can buff iullsec as much you like and nerf highlsec to death , you will never repoppulate nullsec that way aslong all the nullsec alliance keep up with their current attitude toward outsiders and nullsec

bump

My alt's corp has lived in null for a few months in a couple of locations. But we are not big and we are not aligned with one of the superpowers so we were evicted by the recent DRF wars from our latest location. We've come back to high sec because we don't have the time to spend on the null sec game. It's too time intensive. Worrying about a pos 24 hours a day is not compatible with the place of a game in one's real life. It's really just that simple.

We like the game and we like null sec better than high sec but none of has the time or motivation that it takes to live where there are so many people who want to kill you and shoot your stuff and gather your tears and all those other things that Eve players love.

High risk for high reward is a good concept, but along with the high risk comes super high investment of one's time. There are other games in the universe. I like this one but I don't want to play only this game for the rest of my life. Most of the folks in my corp agree with me. Until there is a way to be in null sec that does not require constant anxiety about protecting our hard-earned assets (and I do mean constant, since the game never stops), we are happy to play around in high sec and leave null sec to the full-time players who are devoting their lives to whatever it is they are devoting their lives too, the sandbox, or pvp, or just being the nastiest jerk on the block.

Redesign travel system, make gate travel east, fast and enjoyable.

If I have to spend half hour to null sec and then back, I am not doing it, simple as that.

Some thoughts on improving null that I didn't see offhand:

1) Increase entry systems from lowsec

2) add gates to have less "pipes" and more of a "web" to regions

3) increase wormhole activity directly from hisec to null

4) nonfocused interdiction nullifier module. So much whining over bubbles, put a module in that makes one immune to anchored bubbles (but not dictor or hic bubbles) at the expense of something, say a targetting delay.

5) more nullsec regions, space them out a bit by around 8LY or more to slow down cap deployment

6) continue with ship balancing

7) nerf hisec missions (already said countless times but it's a large factor)

8) better anoms and un-nerf sanctums

9) fix the local issue. you said long ago there were ideas to replace local with something and many suggestions were offered. Test them. I see some here that don't know into null that brag about how awesome W-space is.

10) when jumping through a gate, spawn randomly in the destination system- maybe on grid but n km away from the gate. Have it random.

What you're asking for is almost impossible, I'm afraid. The only way to "fragment the sov map" politically is to do it physically as with W-space.

See here for more discussion about this explaining why: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=7358&find=unread