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Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
#21 - 2013-05-03 14:41:21 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
Rhivre wrote:
*snip* Posting of kill reports outside of the Crime & Punishment forum channel is prohibited. ISD Ezwal

Doesnt appear to be 0.8

Last I checked, you get a BIG warning popup when you jump into lowsec, saying "ARE YOU SURE....HERE THERE BE DRAGONS"

Also calling poop because, I hang out in Sinq once in a while, and 2 jumps from 0.8 to 0.8 takes you nowhere near Eggelhende

Scary Sinq Laison


Think he went from Alilere 0.8 to Jel 0.6 with egg 0.4 in between.
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
#22 - 2013-05-03 14:41:44 UTC
There are no high level zones. The other MMORPGs you played are doing it wrong.

This is Eve, welcome to it.

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Rhivre
TarNec
Invisible Exchequer
#23 - 2013-05-03 14:44:43 UTC
Pak Narhoo wrote:


Think he went from Alilere 0.8 to Jel 0.6 with egg 0.4 in between.



Possibly....but then he didnt get blown up in highsec, and he clicked through the big warning....so, his complaint that "I got blown up in highsec" is incorrect, and his decision not to read the big warning notice or to decide that it meant nothing is not down to the game being evil in some way.

@OP.....if you click the A next to "Route" ingame, you can select it to prefer safer areas, above 0.5. So you never ever have to go into lowsec if you choose not to

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Hessian Arcturus
Doomheim
#24 - 2013-05-03 14:45:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Hessian Arcturus
This is a "Waaaaah waaaaaah make hisec safer because I flew into lowsec and got podded" thread...

I might have felt sorry for you if youd been podded in hisec...wait...no I wouldn't...EVE does have PvE, but PvP is always there. Realise that and deal with it. Realise that you wont get spoon fed...or hell, join a corp and learn to PvP. Or do what I do...go out into lowsec and pic fights with randomers to learn PvP (I havent killed a single ship yet but that doesnt bother me, Im getting better, lasting longer in the fights etc).

Don't winge that EVE is a PvP game when its advertised as a sandbox...meaning anything is possible...someone wants to kill you becaise they dont like your avatar...then thats what they will do...

IBTL

EDIT: Welcome to EVE. We're all a**holes Big smile

It's human nature to want to explore. To find your line and go beyond it. The only limit, is the one you set yourself.
aaShapras
Doomheim
#25 - 2013-05-03 14:46:20 UTC
Most of you talking like you not supporting game. Where not yet similar simulator like EVE. But no need to think that will never happen. ;-) And i believe that most you will leave this game when it comes better than this game. So if You want guys reward for work, so better give them suggestions ;-).
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#26 - 2013-05-03 14:48:27 UTC
Go play on the test server if you want to be left alone

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Nariya Kentaya
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#27 - 2013-05-03 14:49:35 UTC
aaShapras wrote:
Now I understand why just only 40k player is playing this game. Like my situation. I just traveling from zones 0.8 to next 0.8 with small frigate. It left about 2 jumps. But i appear in station without ship and cargo in station where was my clone. To be honest guys, I don't like PvP. If here no space for PvE, so just don't advertise that this game MMORPG.

If I want PvP, so as I understand is low level zones, so why in high level zones player increasing crime reputation and kills rating?

I think one thing is missing in this. And I think You should add this future. If you in high level zones living or starting to play game, at least give notification are you want to fight. For me its takes ages to grind money and I like PvE. Wiast time when get lost everyting is no point. Second is not fear and also is cheating when some is increasing reputation in high level zones. Give for people to get chance by stuff to go for PvP. Because at the moment I don't any chance to grind stuff in this game. I mean I like play solo and I like missions.

I mean if You want to get 10k more players.

I like this game because is a nice space simulator, but please can make some space for PvE players. I will back next year to check to you work guys. Good Luck.

No PvE, so dont advertise as an MMORPG?

Are you daft lad? The lack of themeparks makes it more of an RPG than any other game, because your character is being roleplayed by you, with stories by them, doing any and all actions apable by them.

unlike most "MMORPGs" where the only RPG element is levelig up, EVE lets you choose your missions, and act in them however you want, do you want to help that miner? kill him? pretend he doesnt exist? all are options, thats what makes it an RPG, you make your quests, you choose your battles. and as far as MMO goes, i dont think any other games have more than 10,000 players not only online at once, but online on the same server, let alone eve's average of 30-40 thousand players.
Rhivre
TarNec
Invisible Exchequer
#28 - 2013-05-03 14:49:48 UTC
aaShapras wrote:
Most of you talking like you not supporting game. Where not yet similar simulator like EVE. But no need to think that will never happen. ;-) And i believe that most you will leave this game when it comes better than this game. So if You want guys reward for work, so better give them suggestions ;-).



Well, my recommendation is simple.


Read warnings when they pop up....trust me, they are there for a reason.

Set your autopilot to avoid lowsec.

Dont Autopilot

Problem solved

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Hessian Arcturus
Doomheim
#29 - 2013-05-03 14:50:27 UTC
aaShapras wrote:
Most of you talking like you not supporting game. Where not yet similar simulator like EVE. But no need to think that will never happen. ;-) And i believe that most you will leave this game when it comes better than this game. So if You want guys reward for work, so better give them suggestions ;-).


Sorry o.O whut???

On a side note...read my post...I gave two great pieces of advice... 1) Join a corp... 2) Go to low by yourself and learn to PvP

It's human nature to want to explore. To find your line and go beyond it. The only limit, is the one you set yourself.
dark heartt
#30 - 2013-05-03 14:50:28 UTC
aaShapras wrote:
Now I understand why just only 40k player is playing this game. Like my situation. I just traveling from zones 0.8 to next 0.8 with small frigate. It left about 2 jumps. But i appear in station without ship and cargo in station where was my clone. To be honest guys, I don't like PvP. If here no space for PvE, so just don't advertise that this game MMORPG.

If I want PvP, so as I understand is low level zones, so why in high level zones player increasing crime reputation and kills rating?

I think one thing is missing in this. And I think You should add this future. If you in high level zones living or starting to play game, at least give notification are you want to fight. For me its takes ages to grind money and I like PvE. Wiast time when get lost everyting is no point. Second is not fear and also is cheating when some is increasing reputation in high level zones. Give for people to get chance by stuff to go for PvP. Because at the moment I don't any chance to grind stuff in this game. I mean I like play solo and I like missions.

I mean if You want to get 10k more players.

I like this game because is a nice space simulator, but please can make some space for PvE players. I will back next year to check to you work guys. Good Luck.


This is a PVP game. That is the basic premise of Eve. It will never change.

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Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
#31 - 2013-05-03 14:54:01 UTC
Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
Sarah Schneider
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#32 - 2013-05-03 15:14:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Sarah Schneider
aaShapras wrote:
Now I understand why just only 40k player is playing this game. Like my situation. I just traveling from zones 0.8 to next 0.8 with small frigate. It left about 2 jumps. But i appear in station without ship and cargo in station where was my clone. To be honest guys, I don't like PvP. If here no space for PvE, so just don't advertise that this game MMORPG.

If I want PvP, so as I understand is low level zones, so why in high level zones player increasing crime reputation and kills rating?

I think one thing is missing in this. And I think You should add this future. If you in high level zones living or starting to play game, at least give notification are you want to fight. For me its takes ages to grind money and I like PvE. Wiast time when get lost everyting is no point. Second is not fear and also is cheating when some is increasing reputation in high level zones. Give for people to get chance by stuff to go for PvP. Because at the moment I don't any chance to grind stuff in this game. I mean I like play solo and I like missions.

I mean if You want to get 10k more players.

I like this game because is a nice space simulator, but please can make some space for PvE players. I will back next year to check to you work guys. Good Luck.


"Eve will always be a PVP game, as long as I'm around and have something to do with it"
-Jon Lander, Executive Producer - Eve Online, from E-Uni Q&A w/ CCP Unifex & Seagull, April 2013

PS : MMORPG =/= PVE Game, MMORPG is MMORPG, there's no PVE specifically mentioned anywhere in that acronym nor any variants of the definition of the term itself whatsoever.

"I'd rather have other players get shot by other players than not interacting with others" -CCP Soundwave
aaShapras
Doomheim
#33 - 2013-05-03 15:15:21 UTC
Nariya Kentaya wrote:
aaShapras wrote:
Now I understand why just only 40k player is playing this game. Like my situation. I just traveling from zones 0.8 to next 0.8 with small frigate. It left about 2 jumps. But i appear in station without ship and cargo in station where was my clone. To be honest guys, I don't like PvP. If here no space for PvE, so just don't advertise that this game MMORPG.

If I want PvP, so as I understand is low level zones, so why in high level zones player increasing crime reputation and kills rating?

I think one thing is missing in this. And I think You should add this future. If you in high level zones living or starting to play game, at least give notification are you want to fight. For me its takes ages to grind money and I like PvE. Wiast time when get lost everyting is no point. Second is not fear and also is cheating when some is increasing reputation in high level zones. Give for people to get chance by stuff to go for PvP. Because at the moment I don't any chance to grind stuff in this game. I mean I like play solo and I like missions.

I mean if You want to get 10k more players.

I like this game because is a nice space simulator, but please can make some space for PvE players. I will back next year to check to you work guys. Good Luck.

No PvE, so dont advertise as an MMORPG?

Are you daft lad? The lack of themeparks makes it more of an RPG than any other game, because your character is being roleplayed by you, with stories by them, doing any and all actions apable by them.

unlike most "MMORPGs" where the only RPG element is levelig up, EVE lets you choose your missions, and act in them however you want, do you want to help that miner? kill him? pretend he doesnt exist? all are options, thats what makes it an RPG, you make your quests, you choose your battles. and as far as MMO goes, i dont think any other games have more than 10,000 players not only online at once, but online on the same server, let alone eve's average of 30-40 thousand players.


I think You need read again you post. EVE doesn't allow you chose missions, if you will be in wrong time you will be dead from player. So only player allow you to chose missions :D Please don't talk about EVE NPC, here is only player changing everything now and is not depend on me actually :D. I didn't decide to be dead when I was approaching stargate to jump. And what zones level 0.0 or 0.9 it doesn't mean nothing. Because everywhere is PvP. :D
Montevius Williams
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#34 - 2013-05-03 15:15:54 UTC
aaShapras wrote:
Now I understand why just only 40k player is playing this game. Like my situation. I just traveling from zones 0.8 to next 0.8 with small frigate. It left about 2 jumps. But i appear in station without ship and cargo in station where was my clone. To be honest guys, I don't like PvP. If here no space for PvE, so just don't advertise that this game MMORPG.

If I want PvP, so as I understand is low level zones, so why in high level zones player increasing crime reputation and kills rating?

I think one thing is missing in this. And I think You should add this future. If you in high level zones living or starting to play game, at least give notification are you want to fight. For me its takes ages to grind money and I like PvE. Wiast time when get lost everyting is no point. Second is not fear and also is cheating when some is increasing reputation in high level zones. Give for people to get chance by stuff to go for PvP. Because at the moment I don't any chance to grind stuff in this game. I mean I like play solo and I like missions.

I mean if You want to get 10k more players.

I like this game because is a nice space simulator, but please can make some space for PvE players. I will back next year to check to you work guys. Good Luck.


1. EVE is a PvP game at it's core
2. EVE is not a space simulator. See Celestia or Space Engine if you want a space simulator
3. There are no high level/low level zones in EVE

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Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#35 - 2013-05-03 15:20:35 UTC
aaShapras wrote:
Now I understand why just only 40k player is playing this game. Like my situation. I just traveling from zones 0.8 to next 0.8 with small frigate. It left about 2 jumps. But i appear in station without ship and cargo in station where was my clone. To be honest guys, I don't like PvP. If here no space for PvE, so just don't advertise that this game MMORPG.

If I want PvP, so as I understand is low level zones, so why in high level zones player increasing crime reputation and kills rating?

I think one thing is missing in this. And I think You should add this future. If you in high level zones living or starting to play game, at least give notification are you want to fight. For me its takes ages to grind money and I like PvE. Wiast time when get lost everyting is no point. Second is not fear and also is cheating when some is increasing reputation in high level zones. Give for people to get chance by stuff to go for PvP. Because at the moment I don't any chance to grind stuff in this game. I mean I like play solo and I like missions.

I mean if You want to get 10k more players.

I like this game because is a nice space simulator, but please can make some space for PvE players. I will back next year to check to you work guys. Good Luck.


Omg this is the most masterful troll ever.

-pvp is unfair in a pvp game CHECK

-EVE will go so many more subs if... CHECK

-i just want to be left alone to do activities that make isk and thus affect everyone else but no one should be able to screw with me.. CHECK

- And finally the LHA Tarawa mandate ie if you want pvp in this one unfified world pvp game you should have to go to special places where other people consent to pvp with you in this non-consensual pvp game... CHECK and MATE

This guy can't be for real, he's too perfect Twisted
aaShapras
Doomheim
#36 - 2013-05-03 15:20:47 UTC
Sarah Schneider wrote:
aaShapras wrote:
Now I understand why just only 40k player is playing this game. Like my situation. I just traveling from zones 0.8 to next 0.8 with small frigate. It left about 2 jumps. But i appear in station without ship and cargo in station where was my clone. To be honest guys, I don't like PvP. If here no space for PvE, so just don't advertise that this game MMORPG.

If I want PvP, so as I understand is low level zones, so why in high level zones player increasing crime reputation and kills rating?

I think one thing is missing in this. And I think You should add this future. If you in high level zones living or starting to play game, at least give notification are you want to fight. For me its takes ages to grind money and I like PvE. Wiast time when get lost everyting is no point. Second is not fear and also is cheating when some is increasing reputation in high level zones. Give for people to get chance by stuff to go for PvP. Because at the moment I don't any chance to grind stuff in this game. I mean I like play solo and I like missions.

I mean if You want to get 10k more players.

I like this game because is a nice space simulator, but please can make some space for PvE players. I will back next year to check to you work guys. Good Luck.


"Eve will always be a PVP game, as long as I'm around and have something to do with it"
-Jon Lander, Executive Producer - Eve Online, from E-Uni Q&A w/ CCP Unifex & Seagull, April 2013


Most of games have PVP. But also whey have space and for PvE. I really want that this game will grow for long time, but to do this is not enough 40k players if we compare work efficient and server care. Is many thing around developing and by work I can see that they are limitless to players ;-)
Some Rando
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#37 - 2013-05-03 15:20:57 UTC
1. Create new character.
2. Outfit **** frigate and load up with n00b-ish stuff.
3. Jump into a well-known camped low-sec system.
4. Troll EVE forums with new character.

Yeah, haven't seen that one before.

CCP has no sense of humour.
Rhivre
TarNec
Invisible Exchequer
#38 - 2013-05-03 15:22:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Rhivre
Quote:
aaShapras
Most of games have PVP. But also whey have space and for PvE. I really want that this game will grow for long time, but to do this is not enough 40k players if we compare work efficient and server care. Is many thing around developing and by work I can see that they are limitless to players ;-)



You have been told how to stay out of the areas you do not want to go into.

Set autopilot to be safe, do not ignore warnings on your screen, and do not AP between jumps.

To ignore those warnings, and to jump into lowsec is like going onto a pvp server in another game and saying "Why is this guy killing me"

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Sarah Schneider
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#39 - 2013-05-03 15:22:43 UTC
aaShapras wrote:
I didn't decide to be dead when I was approaching stargate to jump. And what zones level 0.0 or 0.9 it doesn't mean nothing. Because everywhere is PvP. :D

Exactly.

Eve is a PVP themed MMORPG, while it doesn't force you to directly participate in ship-to-ship combat. The environment in itself were designed based on conflict and interaction between players in whatever manner they want.

To respond to your first post, do you even know that Eve is one of the healthiest MMO ever on gaming history, subscription & player retention-wise? this/the current game model works, that's from the business perspective. As to your comments about Eve or PVP in general is not your cup of tea, well then maybe this is not the game for you (the game developers have said exactly the same thing publicly, so, there you go).

"I'd rather have other players get shot by other players than not interacting with others" -CCP Soundwave
aaShapras
Doomheim
#40 - 2013-05-03 15:23:20 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
aaShapras wrote:
Now I understand why just only 40k player is playing this game. Like my situation. I just traveling from zones 0.8 to next 0.8 with small frigate. It left about 2 jumps. But i appear in station without ship and cargo in station where was my clone. To be honest guys, I don't like PvP. If here no space for PvE, so just don't advertise that this game MMORPG.

If I want PvP, so as I understand is low level zones, so why in high level zones player increasing crime reputation and kills rating?

I think one thing is missing in this. And I think You should add this future. If you in high level zones living or starting to play game, at least give notification are you want to fight. For me its takes ages to grind money and I like PvE. Wiast time when get lost everyting is no point. Second is not fear and also is cheating when some is increasing reputation in high level zones. Give for people to get chance by stuff to go for PvP. Because at the moment I don't any chance to grind stuff in this game. I mean I like play solo and I like missions.

I mean if You want to get 10k more players.

I like this game because is a nice space simulator, but please can make some space for PvE players. I will back next year to check to you work guys. Good Luck.


Omg this is the most masterful troll ever.

-pvp is unfair in a pvp game CHECK

-EVE will go so many more subs if... CHECK

-i just want to be left alone to do activities that make isk and thus affect everyone else but no one should be able to screw with me.. CHECK

- And finally the LHA Tarawa mandate ie if you want pvp in this one unfified world pvp game you should have to go to special places where other people consent to pvp with you in this non-consensual pvp game... CHECK and MATE

This guy can't be for real, he's too perfect Twisted


When You say troll what you mean?