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Eve vs. Sci-Fi (?)

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Naomi Hale
#1 - 2013-05-03 11:40:40 UTC
Just curious how the tech and ships of Eve would fair against other sci-fi universes (or specific races). So in a big Nerd-Off state who they are fighting and who would win.

EVE Vs. Starfleet - Star Trek (pre-2009)

Gotta say Star Trek wins. I far as I remember the shields on Star Trek are mostly immune to things as "primitive" as lasers, projectiles and missiles. Also the warp drive of Star Trek gives them a huge advantage as they can stop outside solar systems and scan for light years. I think it would take EVE Capitals and Titans to be even a threat to a Starfleet ship. That said, you get passed their shields and they are sitting ducks to the firepower of most EVE ships.

Disagree/discuss/debate?

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Masuka Taredi
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2013-05-03 11:47:17 UTC
To be honest if the startrek races encountered the EVE races you would likely see all sorts of alliances forming. Gallente would likely want to join starfleet :P. Or Cardassians joining forces with amarr or caldari.
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#3 - 2013-05-03 11:54:04 UTC
Neither starfleet nor empire ships function properly in a liquid environment, so EVE wins by default.
Naomi Hale
#4 - 2013-05-03 12:01:29 UTC
Abrazzar wrote:
Neither starfleet nor empire ships function properly in a liquid environment, so EVE wins by default.


Liquid Enviroment?

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Schmata Bastanold
In Boobiez We Trust
#5 - 2013-05-03 12:02:09 UTC
500k horde of immortal and immoral capsuleers vs Starfleet with their shiny honor and directives?
Yeah, right...

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Adela Talvanen
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#6 - 2013-05-03 12:03:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Adela Talvanen
Naomi Hale wrote:
Just curious how the tech and ships of Eve would fair against other sci-fi universes (or specific races). So in a big Nerd-Off state who they are fighting and who would win.

EVE Vs. Starfleet - Star Trek (pre-2009)

Gotta say Star Trek wins. I far as I remember the shields on Star Trek are mostly immune to things as "primitive" as lasers, projectiles and missiles. Also the warp drive of Star Trek gives them a huge advantage as they can stop outside solar systems and scan for light years. I think it would take EVE Capitals and Titans to be even a threat to a Starfleet ship. That said, you get passed their shields and they are sitting ducks to the firepower of most EVE ships.

Disagree/discuss/debate?


Eve is international, Star Trek is American. I prefer the comparison of Eve vs Star Wars, as the SW ships don't need stargates, and can actually land on other celestial bodies with solid surfaces.
Adela Talvanen
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#7 - 2013-05-03 12:03:28 UTC
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Caitlyn Tufy
Perkone
Caldari State
#8 - 2013-05-03 12:52:36 UTC
Adela Talvanen wrote:
Eve is international, Star Trek is American. I prefer the comparison of Eve vs Star Wars, as the SW ships don't need stargates, and can actually land on other celestial bodies with solid surfaces.


Since when is Star Wars a "science fiction"?

OP, my vote goes to EVE. There are exactly two things working in Star Trek's advantage: slightly superior warp drive and unknown power of phasers. Even then, EVE cluster wins in mobility due to vastly superior jump gate network. Beyond that, EVE cluster will throw thousands upon thousands of ships into the fight, only to have them return after being blown up - eventually, ST forces would simply be overwhelmed.

As for ST being immune to "primitive" lasers, that's not the case. In fact, part of the reason phasers were invented was the fact that lasers could in fact penetrate shields, but couldn't deal enough damage, while physical weapons could deal damage, but couldn't penetrate shields - that's exactly how different types of ammo affects EVE shields as well. Furthermore, EVE cluster possesses a wide variety of weapons, from simple nuclear devices to plasma torpedoes, gravitational distortion fields, antimatter weapons and more. We learnt in Balance of Terror that a point blank nuke could inflict damage on the Enterprise - now imagine a hundred of those hitting at once - that has to hurt. And last but not least, should all else fail, there's still the might of the Titans and their doomsdays, capable of obliterating an entire world.
stoicfaux
#9 - 2013-05-03 12:59:11 UTC
Eve travel is limited by star gates, so in order for Eve to attack the Federation, Eve would have to send sub-light speed ships into Federation space to build star gates before being able to attack them. Not a very practical way to attack your enemy. (OTOH, if the Romulans could send a sub-light speed warbird to attack the Federation along the border in 'Balance of Terror'...)

Never mind that the Eve ships are slow and very short ranged compared to Star Trek ships which can detect and shoot at other ships while in warp or while traveling at significant fraction of light speed.

Long story short, Federation warps in, destroys all static targets in Eve (stations and cities on planets) and laughs at everyone in Eve. Meanwhile all the capsuleers die off as cloning stations are destroyed.

Pon Farr Memorial: once every 7 years, all the carebears in high-sec must PvP or they will be temp-banned.

Saheed Cha'chris'ra
Krautz WH Exploration and Production
#10 - 2013-05-03 13:03:41 UTC
Still waiting on the Eve vs. Doctor Who Thread, where Doctor Who simply travels to the future (SiSi Test Server), buys thousands of capitals (for 1 ISK) and comes back to Tranquility to doomsday the **** out of everyone.
Reuben Johnson
Gal-Min Industries
#11 - 2013-05-03 13:13:15 UTC
With Federation Starships always trying to avoid war, they would quickly be labeled carebears and get tackled and ganked before they even knew where they were.
Praethus Tirdran
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2013-05-03 13:19:43 UTC
Abrazzar wrote:
Neither starfleet nor empire ships function properly in a liquid environment, so EVE wins by default.



I see your Liquid Space and raise you Voyager. Cool
Mike Whiite
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#13 - 2013-05-03 13:20:31 UTC
I think new Eden has much more with the univers of Babylon 5.

Stargate travel, with exception of certain ships. Different weapon and defence systems. They have shadows ehm Sleepers :)
mmorpg lol
State War Academy
Caldari State
#14 - 2013-05-03 13:25:53 UTC
The real question is does eve e-war work against against star trek ships... Also, I'm sure they'd enjoy getting bumped repeatedly.
mr ed thehouseofed
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2013-05-03 13:32:38 UTC
borg would wipe everybody out Twisted

i want a eve pinball machine...  confirming  CCP Cognac is best cognac

Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2013-05-03 13:35:35 UTC
Starfleet vs a fleet of Vindicators. Bai bai Starfleet.
archon o'v
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#17 - 2013-05-03 13:40:45 UTC
Amarr fleet alone would **** star trek, star wars ships and anything we've seen so far on big screen
Debora Tsung
Perkone
Caldari State
#18 - 2013-05-03 13:44:09 UTC
Schmata Bastanold wrote:
500k horde of immortal and immoral capsuleers vs Starfleet with their shiny honor and directives?
Yeah, right...


Starfleet can target and shoot You at several thousand km range. You'd be dead before You can get Your scan probes out.

and if that fails they'll just make some **** up or use "the red energy"(!)

Stupidity should be a bannable offense.

Fighting back is more fun than not.

Sticky: AFK Cloaking Thread It's not pretty, but it's there.

Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#19 - 2013-05-03 15:52:13 UTC
Naomi Hale wrote:

Disagree/discuss/debate?


Star Trek - Protagonist must always win - TV Series
EVE - Game balance must always win - PC MMO

How the heck can you compare the two?

Mr Epeen Cool
Super Stallion
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#20 - 2013-05-03 17:16:50 UTC
fun lil facts comparing (federation to federation):

myrmidon = 601m
Megathron = 1000+m


NCC-1701D = 642.5m

Out of all the shows, the NCC-1701D is considered to be one of the bigger federation ships. Not the biggest, but its up there.

star trek vessels are capable of performing actions that our capsuleers could only dream of. Like targeting and shooting in warp, scanning much further than the average solar system without probes, and so on.

But, EvE has its own tech also. We can regenerate our armor like the borg. We cannot die. We can cloak. our interstellar travel does not require fuel stored on the ship itself. And, we produce ships MUCH faster than the federation can. Basically, roll the borg and the klingons into a pod, give that monstrocity the i dont give a crap attitude that comes with immortality, and youll see how itll play out.

startreks only hope would be to stop the warpgates. Because once just a bit of EvEs infrastructure gets through, the UFP is toast.
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