Player Features and Ideas Discussion

As has been said before, certificates won't be used as long as you cannot define your own corporate certificates (much like Corporate Fittings)

And there was me thinking before I read it that this post maybe about being able to train a certificate in the skills (as well as still being able to train individual skills).

What purpose does showing your certificates provide, does anyone really care if they are public or not, surely there are other more urgent areas of the game that need looking into rather than should certificates be public or not.

If not many people use them publicly then bin the feature, will it improve anything else? performance perhaps?

I'm quite new in Game with almost 1 year. I have to agree some of the answers given before.

Some of the certificates do not really represent a special ability anymore, because they are too broad. in example: "common ore refiner advanced" needs "rare ore refiner basic". I did'nt understand yet.

I'm really sure certificates need a bigger revamp at all. Maybe they can guide a newbie into a professional skillpath. They don't do that right now.

If I decide to publish certificates, I want to have the ability to decide, who will see them. Otherwise I won't publish them. So I should be allowed to go following pathes:
- Publish corp internal (only means players corps, no NPC corps)
- Publish alliance internal
- make them public, if I'd like
- keep them private, if I like

I'm the only one, who can decide to publish or not. No corp has rights to force or view it, if they are not been published for by myself.

As far as certificates become useful, it would be great to have an export function of published certificates, if this is not possible to handle within clients char profile window.

I think removing the sharing functionality would be a half-assed attempt at fixing something that already seems half-assed.

Have you considered adding the option to make certs available to corpmates or blues only?

What about bringing it in line with other things? You can link your kills, you can link your fitting - why not have a drag n drop feature with certificates. So players can show a cert with the players name signed onto it that proves its legit. If for instance a corp/fleet wanted to check someone had a certain cert before granting a role, the applicant could just link it - and wouldn't have to screw around with making it public or using API.

Making them automatically viewable to everyone would just be silly. A huge part of this game is about bluffing and baiting. That ambiguity as to who/what you're up against is part of what encourages otherwise pointless engagements.

Hisec miners have no need for refining Mercoxit. Thus hisec miners can never get "elite" certificates.

Nobody except logistics pilots has need for Multitasking.

Certificates are broken. Will CCP be prepared to collaborate with players to either provide corp-defined certificates (ie: SLOWCAT Standard/Advanced/Elite comprising specific ship, weapon and module skills to specific levels) or refine existing certificates so that it is safe to advise new players to aim for particular certificates without wasting months of their time?

IMHO a finer grained certificate system with corporate/alliance certificates based on collections of CCP certificates might work.

The ability to show certificates based on standings and corp/alliance affiliation would be lovely.

As a new player my understanding of what skills work well within a given certificate is limited, but I have found them to be a great foundation to build upon.

I'm used them to plan out minimum requirements for my fledgling corporation's key positions, which I think is a good why for Directors to see what capabilities a given character has. So maybe making them corporation centered as opposed to publicially available.

Make it an alliance/corp tool or remove it.

I'd like it if you roll it into the fitting screen. Do something similar to what EFT does and tell me what skill(s) I'm missing to fly a certain fitting.

Extend on that and allow alliance/corp/me to modify the skill levels for a certain fit and even add from the skill tree.

Then when I open corp fitting and click/hover on one I get a list of skills and levels I'm missing compared to the corp recommendation.

Sorry for being harsh and exaggerating but this is needed to prove my point. Someone who needs certificates and doesn’t clearly see that some of the skills required are silly, unnecessary or outright useless should learn more about game mechanics… and yes and I’m talking about noobs also. If someone relays on certificates and does not try to understand what particular skills gives him and his ship, than he should consider playing a simpler game. Met one guy, an older player (1,5 year char), who was certain that he needs core competency elite before maxing out anything else… what was his use to the fleet? None… while younger players were rocking with their maxed out t3 ships.

If u don’t understand that when flaying an amarr ship you don’t need any skills to shield tank or skills to falloff range of your turrets than you deserve to be shoot on sight by more competent players. Recently found a guy who can fly abso, but can’t fit T2 lasers…

And before u say “u stupid, shield skills will also improve an armour tank, bla, bla, bla” I will replay: every skill ads a little to the ship. Every one. That doesn’t mean you need to every frigging skill before you start flaying anything.

You need to prioritize – some skills will greatly improve your ship, others only slightly. Be sure you chose the right one first. That doesn’t require certificates and skill plans. It requires some effort to dig in on role of particular ship and skills it needs the most to be effective.

CCP, although it may be a valiant and noble attempt to "save the sinking ship" that is certificate visibility... if any change you make increases lag in large fleet battles, I suggest you rethink.

In my opinion, there is a limit to data visibility needs during combat, so access via non-live server makes more sense. Alternatively, I would suggest adding a filter to any system with more than 1000... or 2000 players.... whatever a good cutoff is that makes sense for the capabilities of your servers to handle...

...This "combat" filter would only be applied as necessary, when the live game server becomes clogged with too much data to operate at optimum. i.e. tidi makes huge alliance vs alliance battles unbearable, so apply filters to reduce data collected from each player, such as certificates, or corp history... for the duration of the battle.

Ytterbium is a chemical element with symbol Yb and atomic number 70. /quote Wikipedia

It is rare on Earth.

The atomic number would suggest that CCP Ytterbium is CCP employee number 70.