Warfare & Tactics

At the point where amarrs happy accumulation of vulnerable minmatar systems began to be swung by minmatars amarr alts allowing minmatar to farm these new amarr systems back to vulnerable and deny them as part of amarrs tier push.

Try reading this a few times to let it sink in. It seems to have been far too complicated for you so far given your interpretation of these events in previous posts.

Nulli had 2 choices, make their own minmatar alts to swing these systems back and then farm them back to vuln so they rejoin their tier push, in the hopes they can do this faster than matar otherwise matar would just bush the systems during tier push and deny them as part of the t5 push, or push for system and only get tier 4.

I think they made the right choice.

Then its a very incomplete take on events. While you are reading some shady blog im on comms and in DnD/FATE fleets with one of the most influential members of minmatar militia before he joined W-BR. Keep flaunting your ignorance though.

As for the comments, i guess there are quite a few people as ill informed as you.

Doesnt really matter if you believe it. It is what it was.

I was in minmatar militia at the time with an amarr alt ready to cash out and yes there were enough systems in place nulli was sick of grinding and amarrs coulda picked it up grinding a few systems that were practically vuln neway coulda been done in no time.

That is beside the point the tier system back then was stupidly broken and dogpiled the losers worse then it made ships so crazily priced at the lp store it wasnt worth bothering. Were as now yes it may take you a little longer to gain said lps than your rival but atleast when you do you can make a living enough to plex accounts and pvp because markets are recovering for most races (i know minmatars are broke) so the prices are offset making it much more fairer.

I mean who was going to join the side that it cost 1mill lp or whatever crazy amount it was just for a bs... now yes may take a little longer to get ur lp but pay the same price id call that the cost of losing

So you were called out, and now you are changing your story.

I was plexing around ebolfer as were several others from my corp. The minmatar would wait until we left and then dplex it. We were gradually getting the percentage contested higher but it was slow going. How do you think I remembered exactly how much each plex captured would contest a system?



Having an occassional tier 4 cashout would be much better for the losing side than this current stagnant and imbalanced system.

I know, that's why we didn't flip more. Took to long.

i never changed my story mate they say practically the same just had to reword it so you could understand it. and my original point stands if amarrs hadnt have got rich during when nulli flipped the sytems and spend all that pent up lp and formed up and gone for the jugular instead of counting there piles of isk they could have pushed it all the way there ships were fovm in null/lowsec at the time and it woulda been worth the work most farmers had worked upto farming missions by then too so the lps woulda been there to put in

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Ahh found it that was a reminent of a deleted line which was

the systems were all in place tho after nulli stopped bashing Bunkers the amarr couldve flipped the last few if they had formed up they wouldnt have had much minnie resistance as i said minnies wanted to cash out with there amarr alts too

I did go off int a rant while typing and then deleted some and retyped just didnt read before pressing enter.

Infernos tier system is a dead mechanic and i know ccp will never go back to that i hate both tier systems but slight tweaks to the losing side could make this current version more bearable.

Yes I know you guys do. I was being a bit disgracious when I said "The minmatar would wait until we left and then dplex it." Fact is you guys are mostly Euro time zone and we were us time zone. You weren't waiting for us to leave to plex any more than we were waiting for you to leave.

We seemed to be making slow progress though. I think if we would have kept pushing throughout the warzone we would have gotten the systems needed for tier 5 even without nulli. But nulli started bunker busting and indeed many in the amarr had, had enough for various reasons.

But we did not stop short of tier 5 because we feared minmatar would start flipping our systems. That only happened in Crosi's imagination.

As far as the idea of flipping systems for the enemy, I think that was something simple minded people liked to claim would happen all the time. But when you thought it through they would likely be shooting themselves in the foot.

But even if it occassionally would be a good idea I didn't mind. Sort of like a gambit in chess. The simpletons (who probably wouldn't want gambits to be allowed in chess) cried quite loud though and got their way. Now the system has no nuance or strategy at all. It is indeed dumbed down.

Removing farming is asking CCP to remove a large portion of their cash cow. No for profit company would do that. The influx of farming alts has increased the amount of subscriptions. OR at the very least the demand for PLEX to keep said farmers alive. Either way CCP gets cash.

Not that I'm saying that's wrong just pointing out the flawed logic of asking CCP to do something that would effect their financial bottom line.

"Large" is perhaps an overstatement, you can profitably farm with an alt with barely a week of training, hardly something you'd sub a new account for.