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Troubling News from the Warzone.

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Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#1 - 2013-05-03 06:46:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Pieter Tuulinen
I recently received a report of disturbing behaviour by FDU pilots in the Caldari/Gallente warzone. Whilst the extent of these excesses may be both disturbing and even a little surprings, it's certainly no big surprise that atrocities are being carried out. Capsuleers are hardly the most restrained of people at the best of times and frequent examples of even conventional Federation military units carrying out warcrimes are now as common as shed tears in the systems that they occupy.

In any case. In case I'm accused of making baseless accusations, here's a report on the event in question.

After hearing a distress beacon from a nearby Gallente lava planet I felt the need to intervene. Lives were at stake, even though they were my sworn enemy. I knew I had to do something to save the lives of innocents, upon my journey members of Justified Chaos attempted to engage my transport - Opening fire on it and reporting its location. I pulled away from the proteous piloted by "X-Gal". Warping to safety.

I knew that the lives of innocents were at risk. So I took my transport to Nennmalia, hailing the local station manager to let me dock. Informing them that I had refugees and free slaves (Yes, that is correct - the Gallente were ENSLAVING people). After my request Zoe Fishpants and Pizzflaps undocked, quickly engaging and destroying the badger.

Here is what they had to say:

Pizzflaps > :) I just shot the wreck.
Pizzflaps > Killed the refugees
Zoe Fishpants > baby refugees!
ParaTrooper > roasted, or grilled?
Zoe Fishpants > poached?
ParaTrooper > Not sure how that would turn out...
ParaTrooper > Easier to skin that way, though.

Ladies and Gentleman. The Gallente Militia.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.
Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2013-05-03 06:50:06 UTC
Sean Parisi is a liar and a fraud, as are the entirety of Caldari State Capturing. If you're actually taken in by his bullshit, then you just lost a fair bit of the respect I have for you.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.
Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#3 - 2013-05-03 07:17:22 UTC
I might be dubious if it wasn't X-Gallentius involved. That guy is unhinged.

Apparently there is proof that a Badger full of civilians was destroyed.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.
Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2013-05-03 07:24:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Andreus Ixiris
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
Apparently there is proof that a Badger full of civilians was destroyed.

Yes, there is proof that a Badger full of civilians was destroyed. I've seen it myself.

There is no proof or even evidence, however, that any of the claims he's made about those civilians are true. What Parisi most likely did was purchase some civilians off the market (most likely State markets, at that, since they'd be easier for him to access), loaded them into a Badger, deliberately flew it into territory he knew was hostile, sought out some enemies he knew were likely to have few moral concerns and then delibrately made a scene so as to incite them into blowing up his ship and subsequently the wreck to spite him.

If Mssr. Parisi were genuinely interested in assisting Gallentean civilians there are a number of entirely neutral humanitarian capsuleer organisations he could join to provide assistance to them. As it is, he's a member of the State Protectorate performing an incredibly clumsy attempt at propaganda.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.
Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#5 - 2013-05-03 07:38:53 UTC
There is a certain amount of evidence that suggests otherwise. Still, I'm sure we'll see a statement in here from the FDU providing a counterpoint.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.
Quinzel Nikulainen
Kokako Acquisitions
#6 - 2013-05-03 08:15:34 UTC
That there are Capsuleers acting nuts ain't a surprise.

But your little line about ''Ladies and Gentleman. The Gallente Militia.' is underhanded. All four militias have their share of wackos. You're smart enough to know that, so I don't know what you're trying.

Ex-Kaalakiota citizen. Ex-Hyasyoda citizen. CEO of KŌKAK, a Nugoeihuvi affiliate corporation.
Heinel Coventina
Doomheim
#7 - 2013-05-03 09:19:37 UTC
Quinzel Nikulainen wrote:
That there are Capsuleers acting nuts ain't a surprise.

But your little line about ''Ladies and Gentleman. The Gallente Militia.' is underhanded. All four militias have their share of wackos. You're smart enough to know that, so I don't know what you're trying.



If you hadn't posted I'd have thought the State is populated entirely of people with the propagandists' life style. Thank you for raising the apparent average IQ of the state. Smile
ISD Suvetar
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#8 - 2013-05-03 11:14:06 UTC
Some scrambled messages had somehow gotten through the filters; I strongly suspect demons.

It's always demons!

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Evi Polevhia
Phoenix Naval Operations
Phoenix Naval Systems
#9 - 2013-05-03 13:30:27 UTC
Pieter, you know better then quite a few the nature of the average Militia pilot. For every one honorable one, there are ten scoundrels and thieves hiding behind the EMWPA. Using the flag of an empire as a cape to parade around in as they practice common piracy. Capsuleers are demonstrably one of the most unhinged demographics in the galaxy as well as some of the most singularly powerful individuals. Hopefully you will one day see as we do why they need to be reined in so much.
Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2013-05-03 13:35:58 UTC
Evi Polevhia wrote:
Pieter, you know better then quite a few the nature of the average Militia pilot. For every one honorable one, there are ten scoundrels and thieves hiding behind the EMWPA. Using the flag of an empire as a cape to parade around in as they practice common piracy. Capsuleers are demonstrably one of the most unhinged demographics in the galaxy as well as some of the most singularly powerful individuals. Hopefully you will one day see as we do why they need to be reined in so much.

Oh, that's hilarious. The toaster whore is whining about piracy.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.
Valerie Valate
Church of The Crimson Saviour
#11 - 2013-05-03 13:42:38 UTC
Andreus Ixiris wrote:
Evi Polevhia wrote:
Pieter, you know better then quite a few the nature of the average Militia pilot. For every one honorable one, there are ten scoundrels and thieves hiding behind the EMWPA. Using the flag of an empire as a cape to parade around in as they practice common piracy. Capsuleers are demonstrably one of the most unhinged demographics in the galaxy as well as some of the most singularly powerful individuals. Hopefully you will one day see as we do why they need to be reined in so much.

Oh, that's hilarious. The toaster ***** is whining about piracy.


Are you still a supporter of the Blood Raider Covenant against the Amarr Empire?

Or was that last month's fashion, and it is now passé?

Doctor V. Valate, Professor of Archaeology at Kaztropolis Imperial University.
Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2013-05-03 13:46:05 UTC
Valerie Valate wrote:
Are you still a supporter of the Blood Raider Covenant against the Amarr Empire?

Or was that last month's fashion, and it is now passé?

Are you still a vapid, lying ***** with no relevance?

Sorry. Redundant question.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.
Valerie Valate
Church of The Crimson Saviour
#13 - 2013-05-03 13:55:24 UTC
Andreus Ixiris wrote:
Valerie Valate wrote:
Are you still a supporter of the Blood Raider Covenant against the Amarr Empire?

Or was that last month's fashion, and it is now passé?

Are you still a vapid, lying ***** with no relevance?

Sorry. Redundant question.


Your expletive was censored, making your question (more) unintelligible.


Sid Afraldir > Whoa, Andy. You would fight for the Raiders?
Andreus Ixiris > Sid, does that surprise you somehow? I mean, I've told Ms. Urazmie here the long and the short of it.
Andreus Ixiris > But, at present, the Blood Raiders interests align with mine in places.

Heh.

Doctor V. Valate, Professor of Archaeology at Kaztropolis Imperial University.
Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2013-05-03 15:52:50 UTC
Valerie Valate wrote:
Sid Afraldir > Whoa, Andy. You would fight for the Raiders?
Andreus Ixiris > Sid, does that surprise you somehow? I mean, I've told Ms. Urazmie here the long and the short of it.
Andreus Ixiris > But, at present, the Blood Raiders interests align with mine in places.

Heh.

Notice that there's no clarification on precisely what I told Ms. Urazmie, nor precisely where my interests align with the Blood Raiders.

But continue whining.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.
Louella Dougans
Sovereign Hospitaller Order of Saint Katherine
#15 - 2013-05-03 15:58:20 UTC
Andreus being a blooder pawn is hardly news. It's just a big disappointment, is all.


And there are odd people in all the militias.

Be a Space Nun, it is fun. \o/
Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2013-05-03 16:06:12 UTC
Louella Dougans wrote:
Andreus being a blooder pawn is hardly news. It's just a big disappointment, is all.

I see the vacancy of your smile still mirrors that of your mind.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.
Jinari Otsito
Otsito Mining and Manufacture
#17 - 2013-05-03 16:40:34 UTC
Andreus Ixiris wrote:
Louella Dougans wrote:
Andreus being a blooder pawn is hardly news. It's just a big disappointment, is all.

I see the vacancy of your smile still mirrors that of your mind.


Oh that's a relief. I thought it was just me or the drugs.
It's like there's nothing there, isn't it?

Creeeeepy.

Prime Node. Ask me about augmentation.
Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#18 - 2013-05-03 19:13:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Makoto Priano
Without commenting on the issue of mad capsuleers, or trying to bring civilians aboard a station in the middle of a war zone, I can't help but note:

Mr. Ixiris, you seem to be responding to people's barbs with a remarkable amount of vitriol. I've found I've received a better response when I speak more diplomatically. I sometimes lapse, I will admit, but it's an idea worth sharing.

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Fredfredbug4
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2013-05-03 19:23:37 UTC
Every militia contains individuals that are more along the lines of privateers than people fighting for their country.

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Caellach Marellus
Stormcrows
#20 - 2013-05-03 20:35:43 UTC
This is pretty terrible whitewashing of an already poorly put together piece of propaganda, in an attempt to degrade your opposition in an attempt to make yourself look better.


Expected better from you Tuulinen, not sure what you were trying to accomplish here.

When your gut instincts tell you something is wrong, trust them. When your heart tells you something is right, ignore it, check with your brain first. Accept nothing, challenge everything.
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