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Controversy as Supreme Court acquits Jolee and Ting Hanvyner
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Tobias Annages
Doomheim
#1 - 2013-05-01 04:08:35 UTC
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Parts - Controversy has erupted across the Federation as Chief Justice Broyal Alserette has declared Jolee and Ting Hanvyner to be not guilty of the accusations levied against them by the Federal Intelligence Office. The two women, a singer-songwriter and military cyberwarfare officer respectively, were charged with conspiracy and collaboration with the Caldari State a month ago, using their status to funnel fleet movement data using a form of musical coding.
Fredfredbug4
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2013-05-01 04:51:54 UTC
It's a good thing we have the Supreme Court and a rather fine justice system. Were it not for these protective measures I fear the Black Eagles would be able to have anyone they wanted taken away and do who knows what to them. Hell for all we know, people are already disappearing without others reporting it.

I'm all for the idea of routing out the vile traitors that lurk among us, though the last person I would be accusing is a pop singer and her wife.

Put it this way, if they were sending fleet movement and other sensitive military information to the Caldari State, the Leviathan would still be in Luminaire.

Always good to see Blaque discredited. Hopefully some power is taken away from his Black Eagles. I like internal security forces, but I don't expect them to be breaking into my room at night, putting a black bag over my head, and whisking me away. At least not in the Federation I grew up in.

Watch_ Fred Fred Frederation_ and stop [u]cryptozoologist[/u]! Fight against the brutal genocide of fictional creatures across New Eden! Is that a metaphor? Probably not, but the fru-fru- people will sure love it!
Katrina Oniseki
Oniseki-Raata Internal Watch
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#3 - 2013-05-01 05:01:45 UTC
Unsurprising.

Katrina Oniseki
Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2013-05-01 05:53:46 UTC
Hah! Take that, Federal Intelligence Office.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.
Katrina Oniseki
Oniseki-Raata Internal Watch
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#5 - 2013-05-01 06:12:43 UTC
Andreus Ixiris wrote:
Federal Intelligence Office.


It's almost an oxymoron, isn't it?

Katrina Oniseki
Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2013-05-01 06:15:56 UTC
Katrina Oniseki wrote:
It's almost an oxymoron, isn't it?

Only because of the people running it right now. But we'll take care of that in time.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.
Aelisha
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#7 - 2013-05-01 08:41:33 UTC
Somewhat thin on details, but I am glad that this farce is over.

My condolences to the individuals wrongly accused, I hope that this series of events will see you appropriately compensated for the dubious manner in which proceedings were under taken up to this point.

CEO of the Achura-Waschi Exchange

Intaki Reborn

Independent Capsuleer
BloodBird
The Crucible.
#8 - 2013-05-01 10:55:13 UTC
Katrina Oniseki wrote:
Unsurprising.


I disagree, I'm not used to the FIO making charges of this nature without actually having sufficient evidence to back their charges up, but this time I was proven wrong.

At any rate, this incident has likely left a bunch of conspiracy theorists with plenty of fuel and it did get a number of the artist's fans charged with trying to break into the FIO's data-banks. I wonder if this pair will offer those people any acknowledgement for their efforts and sacrificed futures on their behalf.
Anslo
Scope Works
#9 - 2013-05-01 12:49:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Anslo
Kudos Alserette.

Two Weeks Later:
HEADLINE: Black Eagles arrest Ron Speedele for funneling the Caldari information via super secret lawyer contract language code using an ancient Jovian codex and a sprinkle of poetry.

[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
Ava Starfire
Khushakor Clan
#10 - 2013-05-01 12:57:44 UTC
A rare bit of good news. Not what I have come to expect from the Gallentean court.

"There is no strength in numbers; have no such misconception." -Jayka Vofur, "Warfare in the North"
BloodBird
The Crucible.
#11 - 2013-05-01 13:00:39 UTC
Ava Starfire wrote:
A rare bit of good news. Not what I have come to expect from the Gallentean court.


Why not?
Fredfredbug4
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2013-05-01 14:13:12 UTC
BloodBird wrote:
Ava Starfire wrote:
A rare bit of good news. Not what I have come to expect from the Gallentean court.


Why not?



Here we go...

Watch_ Fred Fred Frederation_ and stop [u]cryptozoologist[/u]! Fight against the brutal genocide of fictional creatures across New Eden! Is that a metaphor? Probably not, but the fru-fru- people will sure love it!
Aelisha
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#13 - 2013-05-01 15:21:40 UTC
Well, the last two events that got major coverage in our media circles involved (in reverse order):

A) The murder of a good number of 'hacktivists' in an FIO bust that rivaled many FW starship engagements in scope.

B) The public immolation of a traitor.

Definitely not representative of the system as a whole, but it was certainly setting a trend for 'If it is Federation, concerns 'justice' and appears on a scale relevant to capsuleer interests, it likely means the FIO is cooking up a new way of rupturing, violating or destroying parts of the human body for the baying crowds'.

I'm glad that this nascent trend turned out to be a 'glitch' in the Federation's laudable and just legal system.

CEO of the Achura-Waschi Exchange

Intaki Reborn

Independent Capsuleer
Ninavask
The Synenose Accord
#14 - 2013-05-01 15:55:35 UTC
Good. FIO could use a credibility slap.

Dr. Ninavask Revan

Colonist

Alexylva Paradox

The views above are the opinions and beliefs of Dr. Ninavask and do in no way reflect on his employeers or associates at the time of posting.
Anabella Rella
Gradient
Electus Matari
#15 - 2013-05-01 16:11:02 UTC
Fredfredbug4 wrote:
BloodBird wrote:
Ava Starfire wrote:
A rare bit of good news. Not what I have come to expect from the Gallentean court.


Why not?



Here we go...


Now who needs to grow thicker skin?

When the world is running down, you make the best of what's still around.
Brandi Wiseman
Den Sorte Loge
#16 - 2013-05-01 19:33:56 UTC
That's a shame. They should have been incarcerated for crimes against songwriting.

Fly Caldari!
James Syagrius
Luminaire Sovereign Solutions
#17 - 2013-05-02 01:33:24 UTC
Ninavask wrote:
Good. FIO could use a credibility slap.

An interesting reaction from the Accord.

“Here also are the heralds of his praise."
Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
#18 - 2013-05-02 01:47:31 UTC
And now that they're out in the open... Black Eagle assassination squad to strike in 5... 4... 3...

http://youtu.be/t0q2F8NsYQ0
Seriphyn Inhonores
Elusenian Cooperative
#19 - 2013-05-06 10:18:26 UTC
Without passing any of my own opinions, I find it interesting the automatic assumption is that they really were innocent.

We're an anti-establishment bunch, aren't we?
Shiori Shaishi
Doomheim
#20 - 2013-05-06 10:33:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Shiori Shaishi
I'm unsure how an acquittal by the highest court of the Federation following a complete failure of the FIO to produce any kind of solid evidence for their accusations is an "automatic assumption."

Someone mentioned conspiracy theorists.

These would not even need to be of the Jovians-touched-me-inappropriately variety to get quite a bit of mileage out of this. If the FIO went ahead with an extremely high-profile arrest with evidence it must have known to be insufficient, it can only be the case that a conviction of the Hanvyner couple was not their actual goal.
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