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OkaskiKali
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#41 - 2013-05-03 11:14:11 UTC  |  Edited by: OkaskiKali
mynnna wrote:
Sisohiv wrote:
The trouble with the Technetium is, they didn't fix anything. They just moved the problem. Technetium was a bottleneck. Now we have a new bottleneck and in order to obtain what we need to produce ships and modules, we will need to mine based on that bottleneck.


You know somehow I missed this post on the first page.

Players need to get over the idea that bottlenecks are a bad thing in and of themselves, because they're not. Bottlenecks are an excellent way of imparting value onto things that CCP wants to be valuable, and "surprisingly", CCP wants R64s to be valuable. To keep them from getting too valuable, you use a pressure valve of sorts, which in this context is Alchemy. Alchemy doubles as a means of transferring that extra value out onto other minerals as well, which is another favorable outcome.


Agree with this.

Bottlenecks will never disappear. You simply do not just remove one, it just moves to annother point.

The only thing is i'm not entirely sure how popular alchemy reaction is and how widely adopted it is. With the million + m3 a month to haul the "ingredients", i can see why how this can very quickly turn a loss.

Simple approach: import everything from Jita which reactions work and which ones don't? To me they just don't seem profitable enough to warrant the time and effort.
mynnna
State War Academy
Caldari State
#42 - 2013-05-03 13:24:43 UTC
OkaskiKali wrote:
mynnna wrote:
Sisohiv wrote:
The trouble with the Technetium is, they didn't fix anything. They just moved the problem. Technetium was a bottleneck. Now we have a new bottleneck and in order to obtain what we need to produce ships and modules, we will need to mine based on that bottleneck.


You know somehow I missed this post on the first page.

Players need to get over the idea that bottlenecks are a bad thing in and of themselves, because they're not. Bottlenecks are an excellent way of imparting value onto things that CCP wants to be valuable, and "surprisingly", CCP wants R64s to be valuable. To keep them from getting too valuable, you use a pressure valve of sorts, which in this context is Alchemy. Alchemy doubles as a means of transferring that extra value out onto other minerals as well, which is another favorable outcome.


Agree with this.

Bottlenecks will never disappear. You simply do not just remove one, it just moves to annother point.

The only thing is i'm not entirely sure how popular alchemy reaction is and how widely adopted it is. With the million + m3 a month to haul the "ingredients", i can see why how this can very quickly turn a loss.

Simple approach: import everything from Jita which reactions work and which ones don't? To me they just don't seem profitable enough to warrant the time and effort.


Well, alchemy is designed to run at just above zero profit. If it's worth significantly above zero (and for the purposes of its requirements, eg a single medium POS, significant starts at 200m/mo or so in profit), that's a sign that the intermediate material it's supposed to be creating is too high, which means that one of the rare components of that material is too high. People will pile on to the reaction if it gets too high, thus relieving demand on the rare material in question, which drops the price again, and people stop doing it.

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