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Ice prices are too damn high!

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Frying Doom
#161 - 2013-05-01 08:15:41 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
Danni stark wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
People need to listen, ice will soon have its supply cut and mining income will soon be crap.

So everyone that owns a high-sec research POS should by there stocks now before prices go even higher.

Oh and of course I might like a few more plexLol


price of ice goes up, mining becomes crap...

yeah not sure that works, but ok.

The price of Ice is going up, and if you had not noticed high sec is about to lose a massive amount of sales, of ore to its largest customer.


If by "massive" you mean "about 2-3%" yes, I suppose it is.

Must you sensationalise evrything? It really does damage the discourse.

So you mean you believe Nulls demand for Trit alone does not make up more than 2-3%

And yes when I am trying to get my self more isk, scare mongering is good. Duh.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Marcus Gord
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#162 - 2013-05-01 08:34:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Marcus Gord
Not seen anyone else post this yet

The price of Ice is too damn high!

Ed: direct link \o/

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Lors Dornick
Kallisti Industries
#163 - 2013-05-01 08:59:53 UTC
My stash of pos fuel has doubled in value.

And if you are on the downside of this, maybe you shouldn't play eve?

Eve is harsh, if you're stupid you'll have to pay more.

CCP Greyscale: As to starbases, we agree it's pretty terrible, but we don't want to delay the entire release just for this one factor.
Ultim8Evil
Exit-Strategy
Minmatar Fleet Alliance
#164 - 2013-05-01 10:15:05 UTC
Amarr Citizen65821 wrote:
What gives CCP?!!!

Ice has more than doubled in the past week.

If this travesty keep up I will have to tear down all my WH POS becauyse I cannot aford it!


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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#165 - 2013-05-01 10:18:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Malcanis
Frying Doom wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
Danni stark wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
People need to listen, ice will soon have its supply cut and mining income will soon be crap.

So everyone that owns a high-sec research POS should by there stocks now before prices go even higher.

Oh and of course I might like a few more plexLol


price of ice goes up, mining becomes crap...

yeah not sure that works, but ok.

The price of Ice is going up, and if you had not noticed high sec is about to lose a massive amount of sales, of ore to its largest customer.


If by "massive" you mean "about 2-3%" yes, I suppose it is.

Must you sensationalise evrything? It really does damage the discourse.

So you mean you believe Nulls demand for Trit alone does not make up more than 2-3%

And yes when I am trying to get my self more isk, scare mongering is good. Duh.


No, I mean that null is going from producing >1% of the trit it needs to use up all the high ends produced, to producing 2-3% of the trit it needs to use up all the high ends it produces.

If hi-sec was exporting 10 billion units of trit a week, then after the patch it'll be exporting about 9.7 billion units a week.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

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Nagarythe Tinurandir
Einheit X-6
#166 - 2013-05-01 10:39:02 UTC
Captain Tardbar wrote:
Shepard Wong Ogeko wrote:
Captain Tardbar wrote:

I don't know if that is how its going to be. I mean think about it. Would you sit around waiting several hours for a resource to spawn?



I would go do something else. But I'm not a bot.

If actual players in highsec are doing nothing while waiting for ice anoms, then they are as dumb as a bot. They can go mine ore, or do missions, or do some hauling, or play the markets, or do some planetary interaction. It is their choice to paint themselves into the a corner of "I mine ice and only ice".



Well my point is... If you are doing something more profitable anyways, why bother checking every 20 minutes to see if that less profitable resource is available?

I mean the reason people don't ore mine instead of ice mine is because ice mining is easy and consistant even though regular mining was about 2-3 times more profitable (still is even after the price buff). So if you find yourself with no ice belt to mine and you are regular mining anyways, I doubt you are going to stop every 20 minutes to check to see if you can go back to ice mining.

Therefore people will just quit the profession all together.


iirc, CCP soundwave said the belts respawn 4h after they have been cleared. so once you finished an ice belt you can mine ore for 4h or go on a roam or whatever. after 4h the replacement belt spawns. happy ice mining.
Chad Moody
State War Academy
Caldari State
#167 - 2013-05-01 10:50:09 UTC
CCP Fozzie wrote:
None ofthe Above wrote:

The change in the mechanic makes a bit of sense to me, but this part about only spawning enough in high sec to meet 80% of high sec's demand has left me scratching my shiny head.


You're reading it wrong. Highsec will only spawn enough ice to meet 80% of the whole universe's demand. It will spawn roughly 800% of what it needs to meet Highsec's demand.


I have a few questions for Fozzie

1. Did CCP figure all the offline towers in EVE when they calculated how much ice is needed to fuel the towers?

2. Did you include in the calculation the almost 300 new towers that will be put up to support the new moons that are having resources allocated in the Odyssey expansion?

3. Why didn't you guys just make the ice rocks more "depletable" like regular roids and keep the belts instead of making them scannables?


Thank You :)
Frying Doom
#168 - 2013-05-01 11:09:05 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
Malcanis wrote:


If by "massive" you mean "about 2-3%" yes, I suppose it is.

Must you sensationalise evrything? It really does damage the discourse.

So you mean you believe Nulls demand for Trit alone does not make up more than 2-3%

And yes when I am trying to get my self more isk, scare mongering is good. Duh.


No, I mean that null is going from producing >1% of the trit it needs to use up all the high ends produced, to producing 2-3% of the trit it needs to use up all the high ends it produces.

If hi-sec was exporting 10 billion units of trit a week, then after the patch it'll be exporting about 9.7 billion units a week.

Then maybe they need to be a more attractive locale for miners if you think you can only mine 2-3% of your needs.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Danni stark
#169 - 2013-05-01 11:13:37 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
Malcanis wrote:


If by "massive" you mean "about 2-3%" yes, I suppose it is.

Must you sensationalise evrything? It really does damage the discourse.

So you mean you believe Nulls demand for Trit alone does not make up more than 2-3%

And yes when I am trying to get my self more isk, scare mongering is good. Duh.


No, I mean that null is going from producing >1% of the trit it needs to use up all the high ends produced, to producing 2-3% of the trit it needs to use up all the high ends it produces.

If hi-sec was exporting 10 billion units of trit a week, then after the patch it'll be exporting about 9.7 billion units a week.

Then maybe they need to be a more attractive locale for miners if you think you can only mine 2-3% of your needs.


this change has already made mining in null sec vastly more appealing.

Ice Mining Skill Plan.
Frying Doom
#170 - 2013-05-01 11:34:13 UTC
Danni stark wrote:
Then maybe they need to be a more attractive locale for miners if you think you can only mine 2-3% of your needs.


this change has already made mining in null sec vastly more appealing.[/quote]
Yes if you decide you can put up with the elitist pvp player attitudes.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Danni stark
#171 - 2013-05-01 11:35:46 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:
Yes if you decide you can put up with the elitist pvp player attitudes.


who knows, attitude might change when they have to start asking "so who has any spare jump fuel?"

Ice Mining Skill Plan.
Frying Doom
#172 - 2013-05-01 11:41:17 UTC
Danni stark wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
Yes if you decide you can put up with the elitist pvp player attitudes.


who knows, attitude might change when they have to start asking "so who has any spare jump fuel?"

ok yeah, that would be as funny as hell Lol

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#173 - 2013-05-01 11:45:10 UTC
Danni stark wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
Yes if you decide you can put up with the elitist pvp player attitudes.


who knows, attitude might change when they have to start asking "so who has any spare jump fuel?"


0.0 has no ice Cry

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Danni stark
#174 - 2013-05-01 11:46:31 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Danni stark wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
Yes if you decide you can put up with the elitist pvp player attitudes.


who knows, attitude might change when they have to start asking "so who has any spare jump fuel?"


0.0 has no ice Cry


even if it did.

who'd mine it? :P

Ice Mining Skill Plan.
Enthropic
Infinite Point
Pandemic Horde
#175 - 2013-05-01 11:50:37 UTC
Amarr Citizen65821 wrote:
What gives CCP?!!!

Ice has more than doubled in the past week.

If this travesty keep up I will have to tear down all my WH POS becauyse I cannot aford it!


If youre not making enough profit with whatever youre doing with your pos to compensate double the cost of fuel, youre doing it wrong anyway
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#176 - 2013-05-01 12:09:03 UTC
Danni stark wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
Danni stark wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
Yes if you decide you can put up with the elitist pvp player attitudes.


who knows, attitude might change when they have to start asking "so who has any spare jump fuel?"


0.0 has no ice Cry


even if it did.

who'd mine it? :P


Well I own a few carriers, so if no one else would, I would.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Danni stark
#177 - 2013-05-01 12:10:52 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Well I own a few carriers, so if no one else would, I would.


you heard it here first folks, we have a miner on the CSM!

Ice Mining Skill Plan.
Pepper Solette
Doomheim
#178 - 2013-05-01 12:48:55 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
Danni stark wrote:
tl:dr

OP doesn't want to mine ice, or buy it.
complains about having to take down a pos because he doesn't want to fuel it.

i couldn't have less sympathy if i tried.



Totally agree!

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Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
#179 - 2013-05-01 12:50:24 UTC
We should be able to sell highsec themeparkers tears, and use it to fuel ships.

The Tears Must Flow
Samillian
Angry Mustellid
#180 - 2013-05-01 13:23:55 UTC
Amarr Citizen65821 wrote:
If this travesty keep up I will have to tear down all my WH POS becauyse I cannot aford it!


I used to live in WormSpace and I know from personal experience that if you can't afford these changes your doing it very, very wrong.

NBSI shall be the whole of the Law