Ships & Modules

It seems CCP has the wrong idea of how to balance ships. When a ship or style of fighting becomes OP, they need to improve other ships and styles rather than make the ships everyone loves to fly (cough cough... Hurricane) worse. If many pilots are flying a ship because it is successful, why nerf it?

Tracking enhancers are a large part of PVP and removing the optimal range bonus will make many ships close to impossible to fly. Almost none of the ships that change will impact the most have the mid slots to add tracking computers. Furthermore, when people have skilled into certain ships, such as Minmatar, the last thing they want to see is all of their favorite ships nerfed.

CCP Stop nerfing minmatar ships. Seriously. What is the point? All you are doing is pissing people off instead of making the game more fun. How about you increase armor HP. Or increase the bonus for the honeycombing skill. Or improve web drones. I have been playing Eve for a year and a half, (I know that isn't long compared to some) but it seems CCP is trying to make small gang PVP worse. And if you are going to nerf something how about nerf jamming. Nothing else in EWAR takes a ship completely out of the fight. That could easily be balanced by creating targeting assist drones that significantly increase your sensor strength.

navy hurricane is the old hurricane. :P

You do understand that the reason everyone loves to fly those ships is because they were considered better than the rest? That the balancing of them puts them more in line with others, making each ship a solid choice?

Or are you one of those who hate thinking and can't deal with having multiple good ship choices?

Cynabals haven't been looked at for balance yet right?

^ I was :D

The 'Cane was nerfed with good reason. The Rifter was nerfed with good reason. The Rupture was not buffed as much as the other cruisers with good reason. The Drake (and HM's) was nerfed with good reason. The TE's getting nerfed with good reason.

They were overpowered, and tiericide is already bringing enough power creep.

Also, I think you're overreacting over the TE nerf. Anybody who used a TE is getting nerfed as well, so comparatively ranges will remain about the same, but now that one module doesn't give too much of a bonus.


**Edit: that is not to say, exactly that the Rifter is fine where it is. There could be some touch ups for a few different ships. I'm just saying that it kinda deserved it. Same applies for other ships as well, which I won't bother specifying because I'm lazy.

Easy solution: stop flying the flavor of the day. Be--- *gasp* --- original.

Wow a lot of minm haters. Yeah Minm was OP.

and Lady Naween you are right. There are plenty of ways to do small gang pvp that are fun and don't involve cynabals, talos or vagas.

That doesn't mean they should nerf an entire style of fighting. How much tank will a vaga have now that is has to use a mid slot for range? 17K EHP? . I offered several options that would give ships that fall victim to kiting a better chance and I'm sure there are plenty more out there.

and Kosetzu, there is no need try and attack my intellect instead of making decent points. There will always be ships that are better at some things, like pvp, than others. Even after the changes.

Part of what is fun about Eve is there are so many different ways to fight. If you are trying to take down a spider tanking Ishtar fleet, you use blackbirds or lockbreaker bombs. If fighting a cynabal gang, you use huginns, lachs and oracles. There are many ways to pvp and there will always be ones that are more often successful than others.

If TEs make ACs OP then don't nerf missles to begin with. Take a mid slot from the drake instead of crushing HM dps. A cane vs drake used to be a good fight if you were any good at flying them.

Yes. There are many different ships to fly.

The thing you're not seeing is that there being many ships to fly isn't automatic. It's a result of balancing work. Thanks to the Hurricane/Rifter/Drake/Tengu/whatever now not being a dominant option, we have more viable options.


Please look up the term "power creep" as it applies to game design. You seem to be unaware of the ramifications.

On a fairly unproductive note, fly Blasters, give not a single fu*k when TE's get nerfed.

I'm talking proper blaster flying here, not shield tank "Blaster Kiting" only the Talos can do that really well, and that ship will be fine.