Intergalactic Summit

Oh look, I dragged you out of your hole and got you to talk, didn't I?

But I respond to so many threads! He's not that special

So far, I've shown I know a lot more about it than you do.



I love that you're whining about ad hominem attacks while using nothing other than ad hominem attacks to back up your... well let's be honest here, you don't even have an argument. All you've said is "no, that's wrong" without any substantiative evidence whatsoever.

You haven't actually demonstrated to me that it's wrong, you've demonstrated to me that you think it's wrong.



Only to people who know I'm right.

You haven't posted anything that's actually refuted points I've made, just emphatic and frankly rather immature imprecations upon my own maturity. You've failed to demonstrate how what you've posted is either true or relevant.

This is simply what you say, but you don't actually provide proof of it.

A duel of wits? Sorry, my culture forbids me from fighting unarmed opponents.

Yes General, oppression.

Oppression is was exiled the 5000 Intaki and it was oppression that denied them access to planetary settlement.

It's because of the failure of those in the halls of power in Villore that such oppressive policies continue to exist, extending beyond the Federations borders to deny the stability offered by planetary colonisation from the citizens of the Syndicate of today.


It almost sounds like you're reading from the same old well used prompt cards when you answer your own rhetorical question in an attempt to use this arguement. Let's address it directly.

Yes. The Federal bureaucracy is predominantly the employ of Federation citizens who can point to Intaki heritage. The Intaki temperament is well suited to diplomacy and so it is only natural that they should perform well in this field. Im unaware of this fact ever being denied by those of us who wish to secede from the Federation so it's curious as to why it's raised. We might as well discuss how most Holders in the Empire happen to be Amarr. It's irrelevant to the discussion. Which lines of heritage happen to dominate the Federal bureaucracy or not does not change the affect it's policies have on Placid, or Syndicate in this case, and there are those of us willing to challenge them.

It's also an arguement of convenience. Those in support of the Federation are all too keen to promote it's melting pot of cultures and peoples, keen to push the view that we are all "Gallente" one moment, but as soon as someone raises a concern or criticises the Federation for one reason or another we're suddenly "Intaki" again.

The fact that millions of citizens throughout the Federation, from the Crux constellation in Essence, across Sinq Laison and Verge Vendor are content with the status quo has not, does not and will not affect the opinion of those of us who campaign for an independent Intaki (the solar system in Placid, not the entire Intaki people).

It's clear that despite opposing us for as long as they have it's clear some people have a poor understanding of what it is Secessionists are advocating.


And this rather proves my point.

We are not claiming the Syndicate to be the prime example of what Intaki independence can produce. We do not claim it to be the epitome of what Intaki can become. We do not wish to expand the Syndicate's borders by default to include Placid.

Instead we recognise the efforts of our exiled cousins and what they have achieved. A stable society that has ensured their survival despite the barriers set in place by the Federation. A solid free market economy that despite the nature of some goods traded, feeds the millions of mouths that depend upon it. An established and functioning government style that reflects the Intaki value of autonomy through the independence of each Syndicate station.

Supporters of the Federation may recognise faults within their own system, yet they remain loyal and may work to improve it failings where they can. This is to be lauded. The same no doubt is the case across the other Empires of New Eden. How curious then that Intaki who recognise the faults of the Syndicate, yet find some value in it's mechanics are to be criticised and condemned as despots, criminals and pirates all.

And again I point out that claims of courage and conviction coming from almost any Amarrian - you in particular - ring so hollow that you could fit half the Domain fleet in them.

Loosely headed by a corrupt, unscrupulous dictator, as I mentioned. All of these stations, in addition, indirectly allow and/or support the narcotics black market and slavery.

No, this doesn't sound like Intaki values to me. You might also be aware that autonomy is as much a Gallente virtue as it is Intaki (Solitude is a prime example of this), and for that reason, it is why the Intaki have slotted into the Federation easier than any other member.

When the Intaki solar system joined the Federation, you lot wanted to retain a lot of autonomy. So, what did Villore do? They kept Federal presence to a bare minimum. Then CONCORD appeared, and it was rated a 0.1 system. It is the responsibility of the Intaki Assembly to franchise out security. The Jin-Mei did it, and Lirsautton is highsec. The powers of Assembly governments are clearly stated in the Charter and Constitution. Mordu's Legion is there now, true, but it took the threat of Caldari invasion for you lot to get your act together.

And if the Federation did work to protect Intaki? You'd all complain about Gallente meddling and interference. It's a slippery-slope that you've brought upon yourself.