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Cruise missiles tech 2 disappointment
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#21 - 2013-04-30 14:53:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Malcanis
Bi-Mi Lansatha wrote:
Egravant Alduin wrote:
Hi guys,
After waiting a lot of days to have my tech 2 cruiser missiles and fury missiles went to do my first missions.I was really disappointed the damage they dealt.Their explosion radius is terrible so the damage i deal is more than 80% lower than i did with tech 1 missiles.I'm running 2 target painters and one rigor .When i switched back to my tech 1 missiles the damage was normal.No wonder why people say they should never train for cruise missiles.I hope ccp fix this .

But when i tried precision missiles.WOW.One hit for each target and bam down(not for big ones though)
Three rigors or two rigors and a flare. These are your rigs... anything else is a waste.

Fury for Battleships... full damage and Fury + Painter for Battlecruisers...full damage.
Precision for Cruisers and smaller.

The people who are telling you not to train Cruise Missiles... don't know how to set-up their ships correctly.


2x T2 Rigors and a T1 Flare on my CNR. Furies own.

Guided Missile Precision V and a +5% Missile Precision implant help a lot too.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Egravant Alduin
Ascendance Rising
Ascendance..
#22 - 2013-04-30 16:38:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Egravant Alduin
So 2 rigors one flare and one painter and I can kill rats?I also saw one drake running level 4 missions.Is this possible?His missiles have great explosion compared to cruise lol.

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sabre906
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#23 - 2013-04-30 16:52:35 UTC
Egravant Alduin wrote:
So 2 rigors one flare and one painter and I can kill rats?I also saw one drake running level 4 missions.Is this possible?His missiles have great explosion compared to cruise lol.


It's slow.

And train up drone skills. Unlike gunboats, you won't hit frigs at any distance. Without drones, you'll be stuck there until downtime.
Bi-Mi Lansatha
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#24 - 2013-04-30 18:21:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Bi-Mi Lansatha
Egravant Alduin wrote:
So 2 rigors one flare and one painter and I can kill rats?I also saw one drake running level 4 missions.Is this possible?His missiles have great explosion compared to cruise lol.
Properly fit and skilled, you will kill everything from Battleships to Spider Drones.

A Drake will have issues in some of the missions due to its weak DPS.
Bi-Mi Lansatha
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2013-04-30 18:23:12 UTC
sabre906 wrote:
...And train up drone skills. Unlike gunboats, you won't hit frigs at any distance. Without drones, you'll be stuck there until downtime.

My drone skills suck.... Frigates aren't an issue.
Egravant Alduin
Ascendance Rising
Ascendance..
#26 - 2013-05-02 09:53:35 UTC
OK guys i added 2 rigors and one flare and i can kill any small ships in 1.5-2 hits.That's great thank you all.

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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#27 - 2013-05-02 15:08:36 UTC
Egravant Alduin wrote:
So 2 rigors one flare and one painter and I can kill rats?I also saw one drake running level 4 missions.Is this possible?His missiles have great explosion compared to cruise lol.


A Raven will trivially outpace a Drake doing level 4s. The killing rats part, anyway.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#28 - 2013-05-02 16:29:06 UTC
Well done. You will like it more after the update.

Now please tell us how you land a 1.5 volley lol

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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#29 - 2013-05-02 16:30:33 UTC
Jake Warbird wrote:
Well done. You will like it more after the update.

Now please tell us how you land a 1.5 volley lol


Split launchers into 2 groups of 3?

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Col Arran
Doomheim
#30 - 2013-05-02 19:30:59 UTC
Can't find these supposed Raven and CNR losses on your killboard, post on your main scrub.
Matuk Grymwal
Collapsed Out
Pandemic Legion
#31 - 2013-05-03 02:59:32 UTC
Col Arran wrote:
Can't find these supposed Raven and CNR losses on your killboard, post on your main scrub.

Is this some form of automated forum troll bot? Quite apart from PVE losses not get API pulled on most KBs (and seriously who manually posts PVE losses), he's asking about pve stuff, who cares if he was using an alt anyway?
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#32 - 2013-05-03 03:55:08 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Jake Warbird wrote:
Well done. You will like it more after the update.

Now please tell us how you land a 1.5 volley lol


Split launchers into 2 groups of 3?

Well, I suppose I could try being clever and ask 'On a CNR?' but you are too awesome for that, Malc. Waiting to see you on the CSM soon. When are the results out anyways?

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Egravant Alduin
Ascendance Rising
Ascendance..
#33 - 2013-05-13 10:41:01 UTC
Col Arran wrote:
Can't find these supposed Raven and CNR losses on your killboard, post on your main scrub.


2013.05.08 20:10:00

Victim: Egravant Alduin
Corp: Pator Tech School
Alliance: Unknown
Faction: Unknown
Destroyed: Raven
System: Korsiki
Security: 0,6
Damage Taken: 56521

Involved parties:

Name: Scourge Cruise Missile / Guristas Pirates (laid the final blow)
Damage Done: 56521

2013.04.22 13:16:00

Victim: Egravant Alduin
Corp: Pator Tech School
Alliance: Unknown
Faction: Unknown
Destroyed: Raven
System: Osmon
Security: 0,7
Damage Taken: 47311

Involved parties:

2013.04.13 21:16:00

Victim: Egravant Alduin
Corp: Pator Tech School
Alliance: Unknown
Faction: Unknown
Destroyed: Raven Navy Issue
System: Olo
Security: 0,7
Damage Taken: 54177

Involved parties:

Name: Marauder Alvior / Unknown (laid the final blow)
Damage Done: 54177






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Egravant Alduin
Ascendance Rising
Ascendance..
#34 - 2013-05-13 10:42:04 UTC
Guys one rigor and 2 target painters do less damage than one painter and one rigor since the penalty is very high?

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John Ratcliffe
Tradors'R'us
IChooseYou Alliance
#35 - 2013-05-13 11:45:34 UTC
Egravant Alduin wrote:
Guys one rigor and 2 target painters do less damage than one painter and one rigor since the penalty is very high?


What penalty?

TPs and Rigors do different things - TPs make the target 'bigger' from the perspective of signature radius, so more of your CM damage is applied. Rigors reduce the explosive radius of your CMs, so the damaged is more focused and more of it is applied.

They are complementary as far as I'm aware.

I use 2 TPs, 2 T2 Rigors and a T1 Flare on both my SNI & RNI and they own.

Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose
Egravant Alduin
Ascendance Rising
Ascendance..
#36 - 2013-05-13 11:55:28 UTC
Ok ty i start to understand.

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Ckra Trald
Ckra Trald Corporation
#37 - 2013-05-14 02:57:27 UTC
You need a better fit... do you have T2 shield skills? A CNR can tank almost any pocket.

CNR Fit, Angel

High

x7 Cruise Missile T2 - Nova Cruise Missle
x1 Tractor Beam I

Mid

x2 Shield Boost amp II
x1 Large shield boost II (Dread Guristas is recommended)
x2 Adaptive invuln Shield
x1 Explosive Deflection Shield

Lows:

x3 Ballistic Control II
x1 Damage Control II (can be replaced once comfortable)
x1 Free slot, I recommend maybe Reactor Control Unit

Rigs
x3 Capacitor Control Circuit (or rigors)

This should tank most (95%) of missions, just watch for neuts.

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Steve Spooner
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#38 - 2013-05-14 05:35:06 UTC
185 missile ranges lets me laugh at all the angels and rats that aren't guristas.
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