EVE General Discussion

Jump clones, use them. When you decide to go out on PvP for a few days, pop in a few +3's, not too bad. But I do agree the waiting time is too much, 18 or 20 hours would be more like it.

you could always sell that ship and the lump of trit you get for free as a way to reduce costs.

and of course it also makes perfect sense that 70kg of finest mulched human costs as much as a HAC.

lets face it it's all a bit silly. smells like learnign skills to me. not that i ever had to deal with that nonsense lol.

I'd be happy if I could just buy clones in bulk...

Not to me, they don't. I'm quite proud of my Zero Pod Kills record....

Look at all these highsec players who think their opinion on clone costs is worth something.

If you seriously think that having SP loss every time you lose your clone regardless of what you do is a good thing, you're definitely free to try it out yourself (by which I mean PVP in nullsec for a month without ever upgrading your clone) and judge if this enriches your game experience or not.

Everybody knows you won't, so your opinion is invalid.

Actually it wasn't my idea. Unfortunately I don't remember whose it was. But I still think it's a good idea, mainly because it equalizes the isk sink across the entire playerbase and so might actually increase the overall sink due to the volume of players that never lose clones.

Clone pricing sucks.

I'm perfectly fine with it, and I say this as someone who's gone through it three times.

Tech 3 cruisers are unique ships with unique abilities and strengths but also unique setbacks. This is one of them. It offsets the fact that they're really easy to train for.

Suggestions and ideas > One of the countless 'clones cost too much' threads already available through the search function. That, and CCP is already planning to rework it.

CCP will probably lower clone prices at some point. However, escalating clone costs have very specific and important functions in regards to game balance and excitement of play.

They are a huge sink, theoretically this is not much of an issue as players would most likely spend the same amount on clones if they were cheaper just because they would PvP more.

The increased risk for more experienced players keeps combat dangerous and exciting, even though many ships are pretty easy for them to afford. This level of risk is what makes Eve PvP what it is, the threat of loss must be kept high for all pilots regardless of SP's.

Higher priced clones are a limiting factor, a weakness, that newer players can exploit. If clone costs are removed or lowered then high SP characters will be more powerful in relation to the current system. Power creep is something that CCP is actively trying to decelerate, any change to clone costs will have to take this into account.

Higher priced clones are a factor in sovereign warfare; if Goons go to war with Test and each side looses 1000 clones a week then Goons have lost an additional 20billion ISK per week over what Test did, assuming their clones cost 20million more per clone. Removing this disparity would further entrench an already stagnant nullsec, another issue that CCP seems to be trying to mitigate.

The list goes on a bit further, but its late here and I'm off to sleep soon. The point stands though that clones are a big part of game balance and making them more affordable will have many consequences. As such I don't think its going to be something that we see rapid change on.

In the meantime you can fight in lowsec where there are no bubbles and your clone is easier to save. Or start a small ship alt and plan on keeping its SP's to an affordable level. Or buy a PLEX and sell it just so you don't have to be concerned with clone pricing in game.