EVE General Discussion

Dinsdale alt, I wouldn't even bother, the tinfoil in that one is epic.

... but will be back when ice hits 450K per block, at least, like it did a year ago.

Just as pathetic as CSM candidates (or their backers) paying for votes right?

I'm going to pick up the slack from all you quitters.

I will buy all your ice miners for a song, form a massive alliance with them and win EVE.

Stick that in your pipe and smoke it, sparky.

Mr Epeen

Good leave more ice for me to mine, I knew i trained for the t2 mining barges for a good reason beyond stealing them from mining corps back when I lived in high sec.

Let the isk flow in a cup of ice.

Ice prices set to double after change
ice miners angry and threatening to quit/eve will die

lmao

nah but seriously we all know the people who have an issue with these changes are people who run bots

Everyone else is thinking it, but you said it.

Took a couple of days to read over this thread and wait for my face to face info source to return from Fanfest.

After discussions on changes to mining, and notes on talks with CCP Dev's about the changes on the face of it revealed two important aspects to there thinking.

One being that they have every intention of using these changes as a control gate to mineral and ice product prices on the open market by altering the component levels in the roid and ice belts, no problem with that from my position, probably a good way of achieving quick reaction results.

Point two however is one that has come up a number times in this thread, and in talking with others in the Alliance, that of security in Lo and 0.0 for mining fleets.

It would appear that CCP's intentions were that in making belts able to be scanned down using ship scanners this would somehow make them more accessible to the miners, and in there words to 'those that prey on them', but I do find it odd that they have never really noted the behavior of miners to the presence of hostile forces in there area of operations, why they take this stance and how patient they can be at times either logging or waiting out the threat.

I for one am not going to allow some low skill toon the chance to rock up in a frigate, bubble my fleet and then blow the **** out of years of skill training and billions of ISK just because some Dev has a hard on for PvP. And I am certainly not going to go jumping around systems chasing belts for exactly the same reasons, doubtful any serious miner would do it, they don't do it now and nothing in these changes will induce them to change there mode of operations in my view, they will simply mine out what is there and log off.

And there is the key as to why this type of poorly thought out change will never achieve what they want in EVE, as to date every attempt CCP have made to force players to do something, short of making it impossible to play the game, has not worked, all players do is turtle down and compress into smaller and smaller areas to protect there assets against any threat leaving the current situation we find now in Retribution, huge areas of 0.0 utterly empty of anything but the odd PoS and roving gangs of players looking for someone to blow up.

I doubt this was there intention but CCP's constant failure to understand what makes players tick has generated this sorry state were 0.0 space more represents an FPS game than anything else and is a sad reflection on the parlous state of there thought process.

Don't let the door hit you where the good Lord split you!

Hasta Luego! o7

don't ruin his argument with logic and facts.