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Concurssi Mellenar
Doomheim
#41 - 2013-04-27 21:09:47 UTC
All of you complaining, can I have your stuff as you stick your hands into your pockets and kick a can down the street in teenage angst only to leave EVE in stubborn protest?

He who controls the veld, controls the universe.
Gnoshia
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#42 - 2013-04-27 21:13:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Gnoshia
iskflakes wrote:
Sentamon wrote:
You all need to chill, they need to make money to make more EVE stuff.

http://i.imgur.com/cVQcQwa. Big smile


If you didn't realize they are funding DUST with EVE subscriber money, which is why CCP has developed the last 3 years of EVE expansions with half the normal number of developers.


EDIT: Meh who cares.

I've spent a total of 60 dollars on this game since I started playing (yay plex.) I've atleast got my moneys worth so far.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#43 - 2013-04-27 21:14:51 UTC
Gnoshia wrote:
Odyssey is probably the emptiest expansion in EVE history.
Eeeehhh…
No. Short of releasing a patch that does literally nothing, that prize will always go to Quantum Rise — the one-feature expansion.
Gnoshia
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#44 - 2013-04-27 21:14:54 UTC
Concurssi Mellenar wrote:
All of you complaining, can I have your stuff as you stick your hands into your pockets and kick a can down the street in teenage angst only to leave EVE in stubborn protest?


No. I'll delete it just to spite you.
Concurssi Mellenar
Doomheim
#45 - 2013-04-27 21:15:37 UTC
Gnoshia wrote:
Concurssi Mellenar wrote:
All of you complaining, can I have your stuff as you stick your hands into your pockets and kick a can down the street in teenage angst only to leave EVE in stubborn protest?


No. I'll delete it just to spite you.

Hmph. Now that's just mean :(

He who controls the veld, controls the universe.
Gnoshia
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#46 - 2013-04-27 21:17:33 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Gnoshia wrote:
Odyssey is probably the emptiest expansion in EVE history.
Eeeehhh…
No. Short of releasing a patch that does literally nothing, that prize will always go to Quantum Rise — the one-feature expansion.


I suppose it's up to personal opinion.

This expansion was over 70% rebalancing and fixing and the rest was very meh content. I'd take Incarna over this garbage any day.
Felicity Love
Doomheim
#47 - 2013-04-27 21:18:48 UTC
Loved it.... because I'm one of those players that plans at least a year ahead and likes to gamble on change.

And that freaking GNOSIS is an awesome ship ! ! ! ! Big smile

"EVE is dying." -- The Four Forum Trolls of the Apocalypse.   ( Pick four, any four. They all smell.  )
Rebecha Pucontis
Doomheim
#48 - 2013-04-27 21:18:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Rebecha Pucontis
Tippia wrote:
Gnoshia wrote:
Odyssey is probably the emptiest expansion in EVE history.
Eeeehhh…
No. Short of releasing a patch that does literally nothing, that prize will always go to Quantum Rise — the one-feature expansion.


The idea that Odyssey is an empty is just ridiculous. Massive ship rebalance changes, loads of new artwork and graphical effects, completely overhauled scanning and exploration system, jump gate effects when warping, and lets not even mention one of the biggest resource distribution shake ups which will have massive consequences for everyone. That is just some of it, seriously did you people even watch the fanfest streams at all. Please just go away back to your mums basement, the amount of petulant self entitled children complaining in this thread is astounding.
Concurssi Mellenar
Doomheim
#49 - 2013-04-27 21:22:57 UTC
Rebecha Pucontis wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Gnoshia wrote:
Odyssey is probably the emptiest expansion in EVE history.
Eeeehhh…
No. Short of releasing a patch that does literally nothing, that prize will always go to Quantum Rise — the one-feature expansion.


The idea that Odyssey is an empty is just ridiculous. Massive ship rebalance changes, loads of new artwork and graphical effects, completely overhauled scanning and exploration system, jump gate effects when warping, and lets not even mention on of the biggest resource distribution shake ups which will have massive consequences for everyone. That is just some of it, seriously did you people even watch the fanfest streams at all. Please just go away back to your mums basement, the amount of petulant self entitled children complaining in this thread is astounding.

Hey come on now, we're three pages into this thread already. Let's not start bringing up verifiable facts and reason into the discussion when we've already got a good whining thread going on here.

BTW, you guys want some cheese with that whine?

He who controls the veld, controls the universe.
Gnoshia
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#50 - 2013-04-27 21:28:30 UTC
Rebecha Pucontis wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Gnoshia wrote:
Odyssey is probably the emptiest expansion in EVE history.
Eeeehhh…
No. Short of releasing a patch that does literally nothing, that prize will always go to Quantum Rise — the one-feature expansion.


The idea that Odyssey is an empty is just ridiculous. Massive ship rebalance changes, loads of new artwork and graphical effects, completely overhauled scanning and exploration system, jump gate effects when warping, and lets not even mention one of the biggest resource distribution shake ups which will have massive consequences for everyone. That is just some of it, seriously did you people even watch the fanfest streams at all. Please just go away back to your mums basement, the amount of petulant self entitled children complaining in this thread is astounding.


No. The problem is CCP could add another speck to the back ground star field and you would describe that as hugely relevant content worthy of praise and respect. lol

I'm sorry but this was not an expansion. This was a one giant rebalance of existing content. 99.9% of other games out there, MMO or otherwise, release mini-patches every other month addressing balance issues with their games. While saving their ACTUAL expansions to release ACTUAL content.

Not the case for CCP. They just fix old stuff, stamp it with the "New Content" seal, and call it an expansion and then you got foaming at the mouth fan boys like yourself that'll defend them to the very end for it.

Excuse me while I barf.
Mr. Orange
Band of Freelancers
#51 - 2013-04-27 21:33:07 UTC
I'll give a **** when and if Dust actually comes to the PC! Until that time, you can kindly **** off!!


Ugh
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#52 - 2013-04-27 21:36:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Gnoshia wrote:
This expansion was over 70% rebalancing and fixing and the rest was very meh content. I'd take Incarna over this garbage any day.
…and yet, this expansion offers over 70% more content than the garbage in Incarna.

Industry shake-up, exploration revamp, a ton of ship being effectively added to the game (yes, they existed before — now they actually become worth-while). Wait, 70% more is about four zeros too few.

Quote:
I'm sorry but this was not an expansion. This was a one giant rebalance of existing content. 99.9% of other games out there, MMO or otherwise, release mini-patches every other month addressing balance issues with their games. While saving their ACTUAL expansions to release ACTUAL content.
That's because other games have to give their players more stuff to consume — their content is done by the devs, and consumed by the players. EVE gives the players tools, and then they create their own content. This patch offers a fuckton of content through the tools we are being given.
Florian Kuehne
Tech3 Company
#53 - 2013-04-27 21:36:58 UTC
This Fanfest was mostly Dust 514 and Marketing. They wanted the connection between Eve and Dust but i dont see it. Dust is still beta or so and the planets of Dust are only temporarily. The market, that you can sell the items for dust produced in eve is just a joke. I thought that is somehow tha base of these connection but its not active. Ill care Dust if its on pc.

I bought the HD-Stream, the Stream wasnt really HD, max 720p crap.
The Schedule wasnt that good. Show started always later and/or with tech issues. I dont want to speak about lags too. Some points of the schedule are missing till now. They were much other presentations which werent streamed, sad. The quality of the second stream was much worst than the original one.

The features of the upcoming expansion are not that great in my eyes. Sure, fixes and improvements are good but please dont sell these things over and over as new stuff.

I have a bunch of missile issues as example but no one cares about these issues, over 2 months now. Very sad.
Gillia Winddancer
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#54 - 2013-04-27 21:41:21 UTC
Gnoshia wrote:
Rebecha Pucontis wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Gnoshia wrote:
Odyssey is probably the emptiest expansion in EVE history.
Eeeehhh…
No. Short of releasing a patch that does literally nothing, that prize will always go to Quantum Rise — the one-feature expansion.


The idea that Odyssey is an empty is just ridiculous. Massive ship rebalance changes, loads of new artwork and graphical effects, completely overhauled scanning and exploration system, jump gate effects when warping, and lets not even mention one of the biggest resource distribution shake ups which will have massive consequences for everyone. That is just some of it, seriously did you people even watch the fanfest streams at all. Please just go away back to your mums basement, the amount of petulant self entitled children complaining in this thread is astounding.


No. The problem is CCP could add another speck to the back ground star field and you would describe that as hugely relevant content worthy of praise and respect. lol

I'm sorry but this was not an expansion. This was a one giant rebalance of existing content. 99.9% of other games out there, MMO or otherwise, release mini-patches every other month addressing balance issues with their games. While saving their ACTUAL expansions to release ACTUAL content.

Not the case for CCP. They just fix old stuff, stamp it with the "New Content" seal, and call it an expansion and then you got foaming at the mouth fan boys like yourself that'll defend them to the very end for it.

Excuse me while I barf.


Don't even understand why you're still playing EVE at all to be honest. Maybe in your mind balancing and reworking/updating is magically done by fairies but for those that are firmly grasping reality know that these things can take an equal amount of work as creating any new content. And EVE being what it is will always be in need of reworking and constantly upgrading and for each iteration it will become a more and more complex and daunting task. Simply cause the game keeps growing and growing.

But hey, go barf or whatever. As far as I am concerned EVE and the community do very well with the likes of you.
Altimo
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#55 - 2013-04-27 21:43:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Altimo
Gnoshia wrote:
Rebecha Pucontis wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Gnoshia wrote:
Odyssey is probably the emptiest expansion in EVE history.
Eeeehhh…
No. Short of releasing a patch that does literally nothing, that prize will always go to Quantum Rise — the one-feature expansion.


The idea that Odyssey is an empty is just ridiculous. Massive ship rebalance changes, loads of new artwork and graphical effects, completely overhauled scanning and exploration system, jump gate effects when warping, and lets not even mention one of the biggest resource distribution shake ups which will have massive consequences for everyone. That is just some of it, seriously did you people even watch the fanfest streams at all. Please just go away back to your mums basement, the amount of petulant self entitled children complaining in this thread is astounding.


No. The problem is CCP could add another speck to the back ground star field and you would describe that as hugely relevant content worthy of praise and respect. lol

I'm sorry but this was not an expansion. This was a one giant rebalance of existing content. 99.9% of other games out there, MMO or otherwise, release mini-patches every other month addressing balance issues with their games. While saving their ACTUAL expansions to release ACTUAL content.

Not the case for CCP. They just fix old stuff, stamp it with the "New Content" seal, and call it an expansion and then you got foaming at the mouth fan boys like yourself that'll defend them to the very end for it.

Excuse me while I barf.


You do realize that EVE has been in need of an overhaul for the past 5 years right? Incase you haven't noticed, they've been doing the overhaul on the game since crucible, future proofing the game so they can add "new content" To be honest, I'd rather have what they are doing now making the content an actual feature instead of useless trash ships to sit there and look at.

We are getting a new radial menu, more convenient features in general, better transitions between star systems, rebalancing/V3, updated code to pave way for things like buildable stargates, customizable ship skins, changing the way you actually play the game. You can't expect them to just pile on new content after new content. Updating the game to make it feel like a game, getting rid of "spreadsheets and menus and loading bars" to pave way for a more interactive experience is the best thing I could have asked for in EVE.

This rebalance has been in dire need for years, and they know that. I don't know why you're so surprised or acting like they should have done more, its only been 6 months since Retribution, You're looking at the small details.
Gnoshia
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#56 - 2013-04-27 21:43:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Gnoshia
Florian Kuehne wrote:
This Fanfest was mostly Dust 514 and Marketing. They wanted the connection between Eve and Dust but i dont see it. Dust is still beta or so and the planets of Dust are only temporarily. The market, that you can sell the items for dust produced in eve is just a joke. I thought that is somehow tha base of these connection but its not active. Ill care Dust if its on pc.

I bought the HD-Stream, the Stream wasnt really HD, max 720p crap.
The Schedule wasnt that good. Show started always later and/or with tech issues. I dont want to speak about lags too. Some points of the schedule are missing till now. They were much other presentations which werent streamed, sad. The quality of the second stream was much worst than the original one.

The features of the upcoming expansion are not that great in my eyes. Sure, fixes and improvements are good but please dont sell these things over and over as new stuff.

I have a bunch of missile issues as example but no one cares about these issues, over 2 months now. Very sad.


Yep. Sadly people will (and are) defending CCP over this. And it makes me angry because with people defending CCP over crap "expansions" like this gives CCP the go ahead to release MORE crap "expansions" because they know it's impossible to make the fan boy player base unhappy or dis-satisfied and they can divert their development and resources to other (dust) games and get get away with it.

Really infuriating.
Gnoshia
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#57 - 2013-04-27 21:44:23 UTC
Altimo wrote:
Gnoshia wrote:
Rebecha Pucontis wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Gnoshia wrote:
Odyssey is probably the emptiest expansion in EVE history.
Eeeehhh…
No. Short of releasing a patch that does literally nothing, that prize will always go to Quantum Rise — the one-feature expansion.


The idea that Odyssey is an empty is just ridiculous. Massive ship rebalance changes, loads of new artwork and graphical effects, completely overhauled scanning and exploration system, jump gate effects when warping, and lets not even mention one of the biggest resource distribution shake ups which will have massive consequences for everyone. That is just some of it, seriously did you people even watch the fanfest streams at all. Please just go away back to your mums basement, the amount of petulant self entitled children complaining in this thread is astounding.


No. The problem is CCP could add another speck to the back ground star field and you would describe that as hugely relevant content worthy of praise and respect. lol

I'm sorry but this was not an expansion. This was a one giant rebalance of existing content. 99.9% of other games out there, MMO or otherwise, release mini-patches every other month addressing balance issues with their games. While saving their ACTUAL expansions to release ACTUAL content.

Not the case for CCP. They just fix old stuff, stamp it with the "New Content" seal, and call it an expansion and then you got foaming at the mouth fan boys like yourself that'll defend them to the very end for it.

Excuse me while I barf.


You do realize that EVE has been in need of an overhaul for the past 5 years right? Incase you haven't noticed, they've been doing the overhaul on the game since crucible, future proofing the game so they can add "new content" To be honest, I'd rather have what they are doing now making the content an actual feature instead of useless trash ships to sit there and look at.

We are getting a new radial menu, more convenient features in general, better transitions between star systems, rebalancing/V3, updated code to pave way for things like buildable stargates, customizable ship skins, changing the way you actually play the game. You can't expect them to just pile on new content after new content. Updating the game to make it feel like a game, getting "spreadsheets and menus and loading bars" To pave way for a more interactive experience is the best thing I could have asked for in EVE.

This rebalance has been in dire need for years, and they know that. I don't know why you're so surprised or acting like they should have done more, its only been 6 months since Retribution, You're looking at the small details.






Right five years. They've had...what...10 expansions to trickle in balance changes? But nope. They decided to put it off and dump it all into one empty expansion called Odyssey.
okst666
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#58 - 2013-04-27 21:46:42 UTC
Florian Kuehne wrote:

I bought the HD-Stream, the Stream wasnt really HD, max 720p crap.


Not even that...

Right now I am watching the party and it is full of artifacts. This is not even 720p. Thats upscaled 480p.

I am pretty sure they are streaming the wrong channel.. I know that videomixers are complicated and I guess that guy infront of it is watching his output on a tiny monitor that he could not really see what crappy quality they are really broadcasting.

Screenshot of torfi I took this afternoon
http://666kb.com/i/cdlhociae3m9kgesp.jpg

This is just not 1080+ Quality...this is not even HD.

Had other screenshots in another thread I don't find now :(

Last year I was able to count every pore of ccp sunsets skin...This time I can only guess that there is a redhead in stockings. :(

[X] < Nail here for new monitor
Florian Kuehne
Tech3 Company
#59 - 2013-04-27 21:48:32 UTC
The funny thing is, they said like 100 times today that DUST is free but who pays for it? wait....

IF CCP brings stuff like incursions, brings a big bunch of important fixes and big stuff like this then we can talk.
Altimo
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#60 - 2013-04-27 21:49:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Altimo
My point is for what ever reason they haven't been on the ball since before the crucible update, they did some good things and the cycle was more or less on and off. Now they are on the ball, yes they are late but they are finally doing that, sure it's going to take awhile. I understand the frustrations of older players, hell im one of them, been playing the game since 2004 on and off, waiting and hoping for new changes, while only enjoying fruits of the game here and there.

You see it as an empty expansion, content wise maybe so, but it's a step in the right direction since retribution. I know this could have been done sooner, I think everyone knows this. However at least they are finally making the improvements, its happening later than I would have wanted, but it's finally happening.