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Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#21 - 2013-04-27 20:07:19 UTC
Fanfest was terrible and I wasn't even there! That's how terrible it was!

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veera Haklar
Doomheim
#22 - 2013-04-27 20:10:58 UTC
Gillia Winddancer wrote:
Dave Stark wrote:
i'll be honest, i missed half of the eve.

i missed half the eve stuff because about 3 mins before they were talking about dust and i stopped paying attention.


Why aren't you whining about WoD? It's also precious time and resources taken from your beloved EVE Online.


WoD didn't take up 80% of fanfest, the day it does i'll whine.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#23 - 2013-04-27 20:11:37 UTC
Nah. It was ok, and to be expected.

The only thing that was missing was silly CCP internal videos and self-referential skits. No HTFU or CCP Space Program. Pah! Cry
DelBoy Trades
Trotter Independent Traders.
Disaster Strikes
#24 - 2013-04-27 20:12:02 UTC
Khamelean wrote:
Not anymore, dust is already making money. Fan feast is for ccp to celebrate its games. That includes dust. In a couple of years it will include world of darkness as well.

I thought the presentations were pretty evenly split between eve and dust. Of course if you had of gone then you could have attended other the presentations that weren't part of the live stream. But, we don't wont to think to much do we, we might hurt ourselves.


Strange how it's called EVE fanfest, not CCP fanfest, genius...
http://fanfest.eveonline.com/en/default

Damn nature, you scary!
Gillia Winddancer
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2013-04-27 20:12:14 UTC
veera Haklar wrote:
Gillia Winddancer wrote:
Guess that I'm going to be the first that is going to defend the Fanfest with the simple question:

Do you guys honestly think that new content is the end all be all for a game of this scope? If you say "yes" then frankly you're no better than your lowly CoD fanboi.

Looking at the whole thing there is a staggering amount of things and changes - and yes, Dust is getting a lot more room for obvious reasons.

Of course I eagerly await all you management experts who know everything about having infinite money and manpower in any business to counter-argue.


"for lot more reasons" please elaborate, For a company That's developing dust from the profits of EvE, and the current subs. And who's (i'm going to assume) largest fanbase watching and at fanfest coming from eve, i'd hugely expect the majority of stuff to be eve related and not some "perhaps this is going happen" "we might see this in five years, now on to dust!"

Not forgetting All the other random "eve is real, give me your money so i can make space elevators in the future. i like eve, honest" stuff we saw.

But it's fine, in five years when you want to play eve, you can boot up your pc....and your ps vita....and your ps3... and your occulus rift... which is all running from your eve collectors edition, and then you can play eve to it's fullest.


Oh dear me. Damn CCP for ever daring expanding their EVE IP. Damn them for trying to create a richer world in ways that haven't been done before. And curse them for having limited manpower and resources. Oh yeah, and screw them for having a vision that they're trying to share with their lifeblood - the community.

In your mind maybe they're secretly trying to ruin EVE? Or perhaps all of your BS is merely a stealth "Y no Dust 4 PC" whine? Or maybe you're expecting that every presentation is going to be grander and greater than the previous one?
Baby ChuChu
Ice Cream Asylum
#26 - 2013-04-27 20:21:25 UTC
I really enjoyed it, but I really enjoy Dust so I would assume that has a lot to do with it. A bit more Eve wouldn't have hurt by any stretch of the imagination, but I can forgive them because the expansion is like what? Barely over a month away? It's not like there's nothing coming down the pipe for Eve.

Now, solely as a 10-year anniversary event, I feel it was definitely lackluster in that aspect. Maybe there was some stuff off stream that was really good, but the stream didn't seem very celebratory so to speak. For a 10 year anniversary, I would've expected something extra like a second stream with nothing but player and developer interviews talking about the influence Eve has had on them and stuff like that. Maybe even some stream-exclusive contests and other little things like that.

tl;dr: As a fanfest, I loved it. As a 10-year celebration, it left a lot to be desired in my opinion.
Khamelean
Bricks in the Sky
#27 - 2013-04-27 20:23:27 UTC
DelBoy Trades wrote:
Khamelean wrote:
Not anymore, dust is already making money. Fan feast is for ccp to celebrate its games. That includes dust. In a couple of years it will include world of darkness as well.

I thought the presentations were pretty evenly split between eve and dust. Of course if you had of gone then you could have attended other the presentations that weren't part of the live stream. But, we don't wont to think to much do we, we might hurt ourselves.


Strange how it's called EVE fanfest, not CCP fanfest, genius...
http://fanfest.eveonline.com/en/default


Dust is part of eve, genius...
veera Haklar
Doomheim
#28 - 2013-04-27 20:24:23 UTC  |  Edited by: veera Haklar
Gillia Winddancer wrote:
veera Haklar wrote:
Gillia Winddancer wrote:
Guess that I'm going to be the first that is going to defend the Fanfest with the simple question:

Do you guys honestly think that new content is the end all be all for a game of this scope? If you say "yes" then frankly you're no better than your lowly CoD fanboi.

Looking at the whole thing there is a staggering amount of things and changes - and yes, Dust is getting a lot more room for obvious reasons.

Of course I eagerly await all you management experts who know everything about having infinite money and manpower in any business to counter-argue.


"for lot more reasons" please elaborate, For a company That's developing dust from the profits of EvE, and the current subs. And who's (i'm going to assume) largest fanbase watching and at fanfest coming from eve, i'd hugely expect the majority of stuff to be eve related and not some "perhaps this is going happen" "we might see this in five years, now on to dust!"

Not forgetting All the other random "eve is real, give me your money so i can make space elevators in the future. i like eve, honest" stuff we saw.

But it's fine, in five years when you want to play eve, you can boot up your pc....and your ps vita....and your ps3... and your occulus rift... which is all running from your eve collectors edition, and then you can play eve to it's fullest.


Oh dear me. Damn CCP for ever daring expanding their EVE IP. Damn them for trying to create a richer world in ways that haven't been done before. And curse them for having limited manpower and resources. Oh yeah, and screw them for having a vision that they're trying to share with their lifeblood - the community.

In your mind maybe they're secretly trying to ruin EVE? Or perhaps all of your BS is merely a stealth "Y no Dust 4 PC" whine? Or maybe you're expecting that every presentation is going to be grander and greater than the previous one?


i love how you conveniently ignored 90% of my post, and nit-picked the end part.
Think what you want, but in the years to come when eve is a shallow husk of a game that you cant play without throwing money at numerous other platforms and devices and without buying super-special collector edition game boxes to get all the ships you want, or items you would like, then perhaps you'll see where i'm coming from, i have no issue with eve expanding, just do it in the confines of eve, or directions that dont require me to buy several consoles at hundreds of pounds each, just to experience eve.

Also, i suck at FPS on the pc, i own a ps3 and play dust on it, but i still despise the fact that "EvE fanfest" was 80% not eve.

ninjaedit: Totally forgot to mention the 10year vet station thing, is that actually serious? still hoping it was some elaborate troll. a station that 99% of eve can't dock in, brilliant.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#29 - 2013-04-27 20:25:01 UTC
DelBoy Trades wrote:
Strange how it's called EVE fanfest, not CCP fanfest, genius...
http://fanfest.eveonline.com/en/default
Strange how the last keynote — the one that's apparently getting people up in arms — is called “CCP Presents” and not “EVE Online Keynote”. It has always been a split between everything they're doing, with a large focus on CCP itself and the community.
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#30 - 2013-04-27 20:28:16 UTC
DUST is the new product and thus needs more exposure than EVE.

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DelBoy Trades
Trotter Independent Traders.
Disaster Strikes
#31 - 2013-04-27 20:29:33 UTC
Khamelean wrote:
DelBoy Trades wrote:
Khamelean wrote:
Not anymore, dust is already making money. Fan feast is for ccp to celebrate its games. That includes dust. In a couple of years it will include world of darkness as well.

I thought the presentations were pretty evenly split between eve and dust. Of course if you had of gone then you could have attended other the presentations that weren't part of the live stream. But, we don't wont to think to much do we, we might hurt ourselves.


Strange how it's called EVE fanfest, not CCP fanfest, genius...
http://fanfest.eveonline.com/en/default


Dust is part of eve, genius...


I'll requote you again as you seem to be having trouble remembering what had very recently dribbled from your typing fingers.
Quote:
Fan feast is for ccp to celebrate its games. That includes dust. In a couple of years it will include world of darkness as well

WoD in EVE too? Obligatory "genius..."

Damn nature, you scary!
Khamelean
Bricks in the Sky
#32 - 2013-04-27 20:33:13 UTC
DelBoy Trades wrote:
Khamelean wrote:
DelBoy Trades wrote:
Khamelean wrote:
Not anymore, dust is already making money. Fan feast is for ccp to celebrate its games. That includes dust. In a couple of years it will include world of darkness as well.

I thought the presentations were pretty evenly split between eve and dust. Of course if you had of gone then you could have attended other the presentations that weren't part of the live stream. But, we don't wont to think to much do we, we might hurt ourselves.


Strange how it's called EVE fanfest, not CCP fanfest, genius...
http://fanfest.eveonline.com/en/default


Dust is part of eve, genius...


I'll requote you again as you seem to be having trouble remembering what had very recently dribbled from your typing fingers.
Quote:
Fan feast is for ccp to celebrate its games. That includes dust. In a couple of years it will include world of darkness as well

WoD in EVE too? Obligatory "genius..."


No, but do you have any evidence to support that it will be called eve fanfest then? Once they have significant properties beyond eve they may well change the name. No need for that yet.

Your premise was that this fanfest was supposed to be about eve, it was. Eve online and dust 514. That's eve.
Velicitia
XS Tech
#33 - 2013-04-27 20:33:34 UTC
Tippia wrote:
DelBoy Trades wrote:
Strange how it's called EVE fanfest, not CCP fanfest, genius...
http://fanfest.eveonline.com/en/default
Strange how the last keynote — the one that's apparently getting people up in arms — is called “CCP Presents” and not “EVE Online Keynote”. It has always been a split between everything they're doing, with a large focus on CCP itself and the community.





people are whining because they can.

fanfest was pretty badass. I was a bit thrown by the schedule (EVE stuff on Thu, with a DUST keynote; DUST stuff on Fri, with an EVE Keynote) ... but that's the extent of my annoyance with the situation.

Sure, there were some other "missed" features, but they can only do so much with the stream, and there was a lot more being presented than what was getting streamed.

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
Concurssi Mellenar
Doomheim
#34 - 2013-04-27 20:37:26 UTC
ITT people want the EVE universe to stagnate and decay instead of expanding and growing.

He who controls the veld, controls the universe.
ITTigerClawIK
Galactic Rangers
#35 - 2013-04-27 20:37:30 UTC
fanfest was awesome, its called EVE fanfest because its about everything to do with the EVE universe and Dust is now a part of that and people need to get used to that fact, soon there is going to be alot more things that dust is going to effect in the Space part of EVE besides there was plenty of dam nice EVE space related things shown there and i will be looking foward to see what comes out in the next decade.
Guru Man
Scavangers INC
#36 - 2013-04-27 20:47:46 UTC
I just took a shower and head back for the Party at the top of the world. First impressions from Reykjavik: bit disappointing about the content presented (the show was also a bit week)

A 10 year anniversary would have been better with some really new stuff (some people here were worked out about opening jove space...a place to Odyssey in ...that did not happened), but the biggest thing we got: was probe formations, star-gate effects, bigger squares on the scanner and vague innuendos that there is going to be more in the future (I am not talking about the CCP presents but whole Fanfest),.

The Virtual glasses were nice but that again is not really EVE.

However if you ask every single geek coming for fanfest they will all try to come back next year. Beer and like-minded people to shear internet spaceships discussions with , make this place great during these days and those are also the reasons I am here for the 3th time. The game goes on with or without Fanfest.
Dave Stark
#37 - 2013-04-27 20:50:43 UTC
Gillia Winddancer wrote:
Dave Stark wrote:
i'll be honest, i missed half of the eve.

i missed half the eve stuff because about 3 mins before they were talking about dust and i stopped paying attention.


Why aren't you whining about WoD? It's also precious time and resources taken from your beloved EVE Online.


i didn't eve notice any wod news.
Merkal Aubauch
V0LTA
OnlyFleets.
#38 - 2013-04-27 20:54:21 UTC
Hope they gonna kickout with fixing the real issues of the game mechanics and stop DUSTing to the ****
Rebecha Pucontis
Doomheim
#39 - 2013-04-27 21:03:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Rebecha Pucontis
Fanfest was good. You whingers have just got to realise that Dust and Eve are now the same game. I admit I got bored listening to the Dust stuff at first, but I stuck with it and it was alright, and then when they started talking about the implementation of Dust and Eve then it was looking really good.

Sounds like the company has got its house in order and things are progressing really nicely now so am really looking forward to the focused expansions they were talking about. Their doing a great job with oddysey and the previous expansions, tonnes of nice new stuff for us to play with in June, and a really good achievable vision for the future.

Watching the Eve chat on the live stream made me feel ashamed to be associated with most of those idiots to be honest and I hope that is just a vocal minority of the community as I'm sure most of us are better than that. Constantly yelling out people to get off the stage and criticising and abusing everyone about their looks. Just had to close it as it was like reading the drivel from some drunken street hobo angry at everything in the world. Seriously people need to stop acting like self entitled brats.
Gnoshia
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#40 - 2013-04-27 21:04:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Gnoshia
Fanfest was boring, bland and slow paced.

Odyssey is probably the emptiest expansion in EVE history.

Extremely disappointed.

If CCP is going to direct all it's effort and resources to DUST then they should atleast make DUST available to the PC. This is **** man wtf...