Warfare & Tactics

Juan, I guess we're doing it all wrong. Let's move to nullsec, err, non FW low sec, err.. non sov 0.0, err. high sec, and get some real fights.

Here´s another try at this discussion...

1. No, FW is not perfect and far from it. It is however MUCH better than it ever was in the past, and CCP has done a great job in the past iterations. Does it need fixing? for sure (as everything in Eve. I mean come on look at Nullsec and count your blessings) but it´s not "broken".

2. That some -or even many- people come to post threads about FW being broken doesn´t mean it is, because their opinion is not that of all the people playing the FW game. On the flip side, if people came here to post threads about how it´s perfect, they would also be wrong to generalize their own particular and personal opinion and try to impose it on others.

3. If you have problems holding on to your systems, instead of yelling at ccp and calling them "scared bitches"... have you really stopped to consider yelling at the many many amarr that have minmatar plexing alts and are thus ******* you over? if yo have problem holding on to systems because the alt plexers come plex it up when you are not online, have you considered recruiting for that particular problematic tz and or talking to corps on that problematic timezone and getting them to move and help defend the system?

Have you stopped to think that there are so many Amarr (and caldari and some gallente too) corps and alliances that live in highsec or non fw lowsec that if they moved into their own FW system they might easily hold it down thus helping raise the tier status for the whole militia? and that those corps could also share intel channels and help each other out?

Note that these are all PLAYER actions that can influence the warzone without whining to CCP about it. Now if you want to whine and cry about the need for a timer rollback and maybe corp LP tax yeah sure I¨ll be holding signs and shooting structures in Jita right there with you.

Maybe that just not possible on the minmatar/amarr front, I am not familiar with the area, but it seems to work for some caldari corps and it certainly works for Gallente corps. Hell, there are even Amarr corps defending their systems right now.

You say faction warfare is "broken" when CCPs own numbers show there are more fights happening, more stuff getting blown up. I say faction warfare is a mechanic created to do just that: give people the chance to duke it out in losec, and from that particular point of view, I´d say it´s working.

Just because your particular experience is ****** up do not pretend to impose it on others, nor build strawmen about us being interested in keeping it that way and being full of isk. If anything, Gallente has less systems to plex since the squids have been laying down for a bit, and thus less isk.

It is perhaps inevitable that we will find ourselves kicked out of our home systems. Faction Warfare has gone thru cycles since it started, with one side being dominant and then getting kicked in the nuts. Gallente spent months not too long ago at Tier 1, and we are barely into t2. You won´t hear us bitching about it tho, because even if we ARE kicked out of our home systems, it´ll be fighting and having tons of fun in the current imperfect in need of fixing but also great version of Faction Warfare.

Sahtogas is heating up recently but it traditionally isn't even one of the top pvp systems on that front. Usuually its just lots of boring dplexing. You and your corp may be fine with that, (and cry bloody murder anytime someone suggests changes that would make the war pvp) but others want to actually fight a war.

After so much shite being posted i nthis thread I actually went back and looked at the original post.

It is textbook whining to CCP.

Basically the OP doesn't like FW but doens't give any potential 'fixes' and is mainly just complaining because over areas of eve are being looked at (i.e. null and explo)

If you want CCP to actually do something you need to give clear arguments as to why something is 'broken' and a justification for 'fixing' it, not just "wah wah wah I don't like it anymore do something CCP!!!" This is just another whine thread.

Does the current itteration of FW generate fights? : definately

Is it the kind of fights you want? : doesn't sound like it so maybe it's time for you to move on and find the kind of fights you want.

You clearly don't read then, because I'm strictly trying to get CCP to accept someones idea

And +1 to Amarrian VENGEANCE who actually have the balls to live in FW space. .

I actually do this already. Honestly all you need is a meta 4 torp launcher and t2 fit purifier. Character bazaar can probably pull for like 1-2bil. Its super easy and you can actually make around 1 bil per 6 hours. notice how i PVE on my minni alt and pvp on my amarr main. Because that shows the system is working as intended.

You clearly don't read then, because I'm strictly trying to get CCP to accept someones idea, I'm not here to prove anything. Fact of the matter is that all too many have suggested ideas to make it better and CCP sits on their asses.

So, while you would like to coax me into some kind of "here is your proof" argument, keep in mind that I simply want CCP to be exposed for the real reasons no change happens, they fear losing subscriptions more than making things better.

TL;DR - CCP please fix it so that 40 people in a single plex under little or no risk are more effective than 40 single people in 40 plexes looking for solo and small gang fights.

TL;DR 2 - CCP dont encourage blobs in FW like they do in dullsec and this upsets me. Please fix FW so its not broken like dullsec!