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stoicfaux
#41 - 2013-04-27 18:56:44 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
With a considerably higher subscriber count.

And another year to build up the CSM's profile.



time to do better

Yeah, CSM8 has its work cut out for it. Might want to raid the petty cash to hire a marketing/ad agency. =/



Pon Farr Memorial: once every 7 years, all the carebears in high-sec must PvP or they will be temp-banned.
Kinis Deren
Mosquito Squadron
D0GS OF WAR
#42 - 2013-04-27 18:59:22 UTC
mama guru wrote:


Not within the CSM, but within the playerbase itself. EVE is all interconnected, there is no PVE vs PVP debate to be had in this game. High, Null and Low are all equally relevant since you can't make due without all three.


Awesome! That echoes my feelings too O7
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#43 - 2013-04-27 19:00:59 UTC
Kinis Deren wrote:
mama guru wrote:


Not within the CSM, but within the playerbase itself. EVE is all interconnected, there is no PVE vs PVP debate to be had in this game. High, Null and Low are all equally relevant since you can't make due without all three.


Awesome! That echoes my feelings too O7



Indeed.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
LHA Tarawa
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#44 - 2013-04-27 19:10:39 UTC
Dilbert HighSeed wrote:
As predicted, a disaster for high sec.

This CSM will end up driving the final nails into high sec's coffin.
I am sure they will be high-fiving each other by Aug 2014, giggling at all the damage they have wrought with the largest meta-gank of the largest population of Eve.



And, despite all the whining from CSM7 to destroy high sec, what are we getting from Odyssey?

Spod will now net half the trit per M3 of veld, and a few extra outpost slots to sit largely unused in null.

CCP knows where their bread is buttered. Calls by CSM to destroy high sec and force carebears out of high sec (by them quitting the game) will continue to go largely ignored.
ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#45 - 2013-04-27 19:12:17 UTC
I deleted some offensive posts. Keep it civil people!

And congrats to all chosen on CSM8!

ISD Ezwal Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Dilbert HighSeed
Pirannha Corp
#46 - 2013-04-27 19:29:13 UTC
LHA Tarawa wrote:
Dilbert HighSeed wrote:
As predicted, a disaster for high sec.

This CSM will end up driving the final nails into high sec's coffin.
I am sure they will be high-fiving each other by Aug 2014, giggling at all the damage they have wrought with the largest meta-gank of the largest population of Eve.



And, despite all the whining from CSM7 to destroy high sec, what are we getting from Odyssey?

Spod will now net half the trit per M3 of veld, and a few extra outpost slots to sit largely unused in null.

CCP knows where their bread is buttered. Calls by CSM to destroy high sec and force carebears out of high sec (by them quitting the game) will continue to go largely ignored.



Well, high sec mining got hammered, which also means high sec mission looting got hammered.
Ice mining is now in the hands of cartels with the resources/ pilots to control the supply.
Suicide gankers now have "buy your sec status back".

All changes were neutral to high sec income, or a transfer of wealth away from high sec.
And these transfers will just accelerate with the new CSM.
T2 mfg has not been wiped out from high sec, but it is on the table.
The goon lead game designer has stated formally he wants to remove T2 mfg from high sec, and his position inside CCP has been strengthened in the last 6 months.

The changes announced in the last few days are just another victory for the null sec zealots in their long term campaign against high sec. Bit by bit, they chip away at wiping out high sec, and the next 2 iterations under the control of this CSM will be the death strokes.
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#47 - 2013-04-27 19:31:43 UTC
Dilbert HighSeed wrote:

The goon lead game designer has stated formally he wants to remove T2 mfg from high sec, and his position inside CCP has been strengthened in the last 6 months.


If it's of any comfort to you, I unreservedly oppose any such compromise of the sandbox.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
#48 - 2013-04-27 19:31:46 UTC  |  Edited by: silens vesica
Dilbert HighSeed wrote:
As predicted, a disaster for high sec.
'Cause Hi-Sec can't be bothered to get off its dead backside and vote. Apathy is its own punishment.

Quote:
This CSM will end up driving the final nails into high sec's coffin.
I am sure they will be high-fiving each other by Aug 2014, giggling at all the damage they have wrought with the largest meta-gank of the largest population of Eve.

You grant CSM far more power than is their due, yanno. I understand paranoia, but really, a bit of reading would dispel it; CSM has a seat at the table; it does not drive the agenda, nor does it make the decisions.


I'm fairly content with this CSM slate. Most of my candidates made it.

Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.

Didn't vote? Then you voted for NulBloc
Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
#49 - 2013-04-27 19:33:26 UTC
Congratulations to the winners.

The Tears Must Flow
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
#50 - 2013-04-27 19:36:21 UTC
James Arget wrote:
WHOOOO!!! **** YEAH!!!

I'll gain decorum later, for now I'm just happy.

SUCK IT NULLSEC, WORMHOLES ARE CSM NOW!

Just so. Twisted

Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.

Didn't vote? Then you voted for NulBloc
JamesCLK
#51 - 2013-04-27 19:38:31 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Dilbert HighSeed wrote:
As predicted, a disaster for high sec.
Oh my.
Why does “highsec” so often remind me of a fat man who's being told that cookies for breakfast, lunch and dinner might not be the best of ideas? Lol

Thank [favourite higher power] that this is not actually a representative view for most highsec residents.


Actually they're getting Mike Azariah. I'm surprised he made it!

Surprised, but glad!


Apart from that, looks like everyone I was rooting for made it.

CSM 8 should be good! Big smile

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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#52 - 2013-04-27 19:51:44 UTC
Yeah it was pretty gratifying to see Mike finally get his reward. If anyone's earned a slot on this CSM, it's him.


Now to oppose him at every step!

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
#53 - 2013-04-27 20:08:00 UTC
I was robbed! They got more votes than I did. That's clearly against the rules (That I pencilled into my copy of the rules)

More seriously: Congrats all. I wish I could have worked with you, but I know you'll do a good job.

Woo! CSM XI!

Fuzzwork Enterprises

Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter
rswfire
#54 - 2013-04-27 20:10:39 UTC
silens vesica wrote:
'Cause Hi-Sec can't be bothered to get off its dead backside and vote. Apathy is its own punishment.


This is a common argument that I don't generally believe. I think the best that can be said are that many in highsec are more casual players and thus are just not as well-informed. What highsec needs is a coalition that helps to keep it informed of what is going on Eve and allows them the opportunity to better add their voices to the overall narrative. They're not necessarily apathetic; they're just not well-organized.

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EmmaFromMarketing
Prospect Theory
#55 - 2013-04-27 20:18:15 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
Dilbert HighSeed wrote:
As predicted, a disaster for high sec.

This CSM will end up driving the final nails into high sec's coffin.
I am sure they will be high-fiving each other by Aug 2014, giggling at all the damage they have wrought with the largest meta-gank of the largest population of Eve.


*Snip* Discussion of warnings and bans is prohibited. ISD Ezwal

Congratulations to all taking part and those elected
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
#56 - 2013-04-27 20:21:48 UTC
rswfire wrote:
silens vesica wrote:
'Cause Hi-Sec can't be bothered to get off its dead backside and vote. Apathy is its own punishment.


This is a common argument that I don't generally believe. I think the best that can be said are that many in highsec are more casual players and thus are just not as well-informed. What highsec needs is a coalition that helps to keep it informed of what is going on Eve and allows them the opportunity to better add their voices to the overall narrative.
Which organization exists... where? Nowhere. Because no one can be arsed to create it, or to join it. AKA: Apathy.

Quote:
They're not necessarily apathetic; they're just not well-organized.
'Fraid you're mistaken, albeit with a certain naivete that gets you cut some slack. They're not well organized because they don't care to get organized; AKA: Apathetic.

Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.

Didn't vote? Then you voted for NulBloc
rswfire
#57 - 2013-04-27 20:22:45 UTC
silens vesica wrote:
rswfire wrote:
silens vesica wrote:
'Cause Hi-Sec can't be bothered to get off its dead backside and vote. Apathy is its own punishment.


This is a common argument that I don't generally believe. I think the best that can be said are that many in highsec are more casual players and thus are just not as well-informed. What highsec needs is a coalition that helps to keep it informed of what is going on Eve and allows them the opportunity to better add their voices to the overall narrative.
Which organization exists... where? Nowhere. Because no one can be arsed to create it, or to join it. AKA: Apathy.

Quote:
They're not necessarily apathetic; they're just not well-organized.
'Fraid you're mistaken, albeit with a certain naivete that gets you cut some slack. They're not well organized because they don't care to get organized; AKA: Apathetic.


For now, perhaps.

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silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
#58 - 2013-04-27 20:24:28 UTC
rswfire wrote:
silens vesica wrote:
rswfire wrote:
silens vesica wrote:
'Cause Hi-Sec can't be bothered to get off its dead backside and vote. Apathy is its own punishment.


This is a common argument that I don't generally believe. I think the best that can be said are that many in highsec are more casual players and thus are just not as well-informed. What highsec needs is a coalition that helps to keep it informed of what is going on Eve and allows them the opportunity to better add their voices to the overall narrative.
Which organization exists... where? Nowhere. Because no one can be arsed to create it, or to join it. AKA: Apathy.

Quote:
They're not necessarily apathetic; they're just not well-organized.
'Fraid you're mistaken, albeit with a certain naivete that gets you cut some slack. They're not well organized because they don't care to get organized; AKA: Apathetic.


For now, perhaps.

One hopes. When Hi-Sec awakens - if Hi-Sec awakens - it will be a great day for all.

Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.

Didn't vote? Then you voted for NulBloc
Nexus Day
Lustrevik Trade and Travel Bureau
#59 - 2013-04-27 20:29:32 UTC
Dilbert HighSeed wrote:
As predicted, a disaster for high sec.

This CSM will end up driving the final nails into high sec's coffin.
I am sure they will be high-fiving each other by Aug 2014, giggling at all the damage they have wrought with the largest meta-gank of the largest population of Eve.

Which is a bigger myth, EvE is a sandbox or the CSM's actually have a fundamental impact on the game?
Murk Paradox
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#60 - 2013-04-27 20:30:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Murk Paradox
silens vesica wrote:
Dilbert HighSeed wrote:
As predicted, a disaster for high sec.
'Cause Hi-Sec can't be bothered to get off its dead backside and vote. Apathy is its own punishment.

Quote:
This CSM will end up driving the final nails into high sec's coffin.
I am sure they will be high-fiving each other by Aug 2014, giggling at all the damage they have wrought with the largest meta-gank of the largest population of Eve.

You grant CSM far more power than is their due, yanno. I understand paranoia, but really, a bit of reading would dispel it; CSM has a seat at the table; it does not drive the agenda, nor does it make the decisions.


I'm fairly content with this CSM slate. Most of my candidates made it.



Just to get the tinfoil ready... but if you have a force on the CSM aligned with a dev.... things will go in their favor.

Not that it is guaranteed to, but yea...

The game as a whole is paramount regardless however.

Half the names on the list are those I've argued with, as well as voted for.

Let's see what happens =)

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