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If that were actually true then you'd see a lot more miners moving from high to null.

It's obviously not true, because in highsec you have CONCORD to protect you. In null anybody can kill your lone miner with pretty much any ship.

It was Colonel Mustard.


In the grav site.


With a battlebadger.



Seriously though, hisec is 'safe' therefore nobody bothers protecting their safety, making them less safe.

When was the last time you saw gankers reported in an intel channel, or a miner warp to dock up when a hostile enters local in HIGH sec?

So, CCP makes a 'safe' environment for players, who act in an inherently unsafe (lazy) manner. Meanwhile, the players make their own environment that is actually safer for those who can be bothered to put in an ounce of effort (read: not afk) in 'unsafe' space.

And we still have seemingly intelligent people, from nullsec coalitions, saying hisec is safer?

wtf man. wtf.


In this game, you are always, always, ALWAYS!

...as safe as you make yourself.

You talk about changes without actually highlighting what those changes are going to be.

I certainly get that you don't agree with them though, whatever they are!

That's the mythology anyway. Except CONCORD does not really protect you, it just punishes the gankers who are free to consider loss of a ship vs value of disrupting an op.

Plus you don't mine alone in nullsec. You see EVE has these social aggregates known as corps, alliances, and fleets.. and there is this thing called Local.

Mining in nullsec is safe enough -- afk mining though is not so viable, but I am not sure it really should be.

How is that not protection?


And? All these things exist in highsec as well.

Well that is if you are going to Nullsec by yourself...

But if you are in an alliance you have them to help self-police owned territories, intel channels, and friendly gate bubble camps weeding out any nuetrals who aren't flying a cloaky.

Secondly everytime I go to null its empty for the most part, so you have that at least.

So if you see someone in your system, you can dock up right away.

Wheras if you are a miner in high sec and have 100 people in the system, chances are you won't see that -10 status player enter the system with his catalyst since its impossibly tedious to look at every single character in local.

That said, you don't have concord, but you can kill anyone without reason that isn't blue to you just to be sure.

It's not a perfect system, but you have more safety than you would if you were in low or wh.

A couple of days ago I was hauling some meta loot out of a lowsec system to refill the public hangers at the office. Suddenly my notification flashes. War has been declared on my Alliance! A good thing I have a 24hr heads-up I think, as I decloak and suddenly get yellowboxed and take a rough hit to the shield buffer. A ship next to me explodes as CONCORD moves in to strip the offender from his ship. I gain a killright. Maybe these occurances be connected? Does the pirate group that has declared war on our Alliance, have some ganker friends? It's time to don the tinfoil and march for war.

The week progresses slowly. Some war targets are spotted but they quickly get pushed off gates or chased around hisec. While we dont pull off any kills, the stalward BC defense we put up coordinating with another corp that has been decced, prevents unnecesary deaths. Some members carefully start up small PVE activities with combat ships on standby. Because half our WTs can't enter hisec and remain mostly offline we decide to roam around another part of lowsec.

I join a roaming fleet not far in lowsec, and moments later a WT is spotted a few jumps back, chasing one of our guys. We creep a few systems closer back and set up an ambush, but then the WT docks and logs off. I decide to move into the system to see if he logs back on again soon. I jump the gate.

There is the pirate I have a killright on, a few kilometers off the gate. In an Orca.

I activate it.

I burn as hard as I can. Overload all the things. The scram takes.

I make the call on TS.

The sweetest of satisfactions granted.

The bliss of catharsis as a bonus.

Ladies and gentlemen, the butterfly effect.

EDIT: I can't get these links to work, that ampersand is being parsed incorrectly.

now that you're leaving, can I have ur stuff? just private contract it over to me

These threads make me a :sadpanda: because I end up clicking "like" on Goon posts.

CCP, please fix something so I can avoid this risk...

indeed. it's a sad day when the goodposters are from goonswarm.

maybe OP was formerly in WIDOT. That could explain a lot...