EVE General Discussion

Truly awesome game.

Sooo. are they going to make lvl 4 missions also a group effort?

I hope that this stuff is for wormholes too.

Hacking starts about 1:13:00 into the video

http://www.twitch.tv/ccp/c/2208288

Much Obliged. I'll make a point not to shoot you next time I'm getting drunk and shooting people.

Edit:

On a more serious note, it is somewhat hard to infer from the video just what these mechanics entail. We know there's some loot jettison mechanic, but we don't know just how much is contained within a single canister. Consider the following: What if each container contains about 1/4 to 1/5 the usual loot drops from existing mechanics? A player operating solo will see no difference in payout, assuming proper handling of a loot ejection. But at the same time, now he can bring friends along for the operation. What those friends do is up in the air. But there's an incentive to drag your friends along, and since only one player needs the hacking equipment, they can focus elsewhere. You can have friends with PvP fits coming along to protect you while you do the actual hacking. Or just a PvE gunboat to clear rats faster. Or you can all bring scan equipment and scan several systems at once, recalling the fleet right before you pop the can.

Don't get me wrong, loot jettison feels WAY out of place in eve, but the idea of loot scaling with the number players has a lot of potential to make exploration a group activity, without pooping in the solo player's cheerios. I've been running solo for years, and I like the *idea* of this system, if not the execution. Still....long term, it may be worth it. As for the actual hacking minigame, I have no objections to it, mindless though it may be. Here's hoping it turns out to be as awesome as the scanning mingame.

Edit 2: Also Ninjaing potential. Do want.

If CCP will acutally put loot into mag sites. Thats a win right there.

If CCP has made it so that you need a second person to scoop all the loot, then this probably means (if it's done properly) that it's designed to be decently profitable for two people (since they'd have to share it). Which means that while you won't get all the loot on your own, what you will be able to pick up should still be pretty profitable. In addition the twitch game really makes it so that you do need two people to grab everything. I kind of doubt there are many people who will be able to dual box and still do a decent job of grabbing stuff.

So no, I really doubt that this kills off exploration. Depending on loot chances and site design etc. exploration could be massively profitable like it's supposed to be without being a major isk faucet like missions and ratting are.

I'm looking forward to trying it out when it hits Sisi/Duality and depending on how good it is I might just end up doing this instead of ratting. It looks fun. It's new.

It's a bit funny that they call it Oddesey.

There's a lot of good stuff in it, while exploration is killed off ;)

CCP what the crap happened to Harden The **** UP.... you give us pandas in space.. your not expanding Eve, your making it a cash cow playing to the lowest common denominator.

Your new explore is an insult to those that have invested time in getting maxed skills for exploration, to those that have run them since they were an art, before its great dumbing down for the masses a couple of years ago.

The mini game shows that you like angry birds, its a tablet game not really eve on a pc, the exploding jettisoned loot is fail, it kills solo running that many people do, or is it a ruse to get more lame alt accounts?, all the people who took time to max out the exploration related skills and learnt how to probe quickly with 5 probes have been shafted and shat on to please those who are too lazy to think and plan.

Honestly you have never really got into exploration have you, you have made it so easy that any fool and his dog on an alt will be required to get loot, you decimate the market in decryptors, which was a decent isk sink when you actually think about it, and all because shiny shiny trumps complexity and depth.

yeah this is a rant at a poorly thought out piece of work, made by people that have no talent, skill or dedication to exploration, you just put a moped engine in a sports car and gave it a go faster stripe paint job and said isn´t this the dogs bollocks.

CCP HTFU not DTFD (Dumb The **** Down)

edit: just noticed i posted on alt, sorry about that was meant to be main, just so pissed at CCP i didn´t look

The hell peopple i really dont get players nowadays, they just cannot keepp from complaining, its better than the previous mechanic ? yes


Is funnier ? yes

It detracts from spreadsheets in space? yes

so what the hell? is true it might be twitch based but i think thats even more interesting, adding some real life skill to apply to something in game is something i feel is way worth tossing out some spreadsheets out.

sometimes it feels like you guys wont be happy unless everything added is some sort of grey dark thing that should compell you to commit suicide, personally i love the idea and if you even havent tried it yet, you are complaining for nothing.


since you guys like stuff with so much time and patience where twitching is not involved, why not make the mini game open an Excel Spreadsheet and make you guys decrypt some code using math formulas with unlimited time, to me it sounds like that is what you all people want...