Market Discussions

Stockpiling Thulium has never been an easily thing. I have actively purchased many sell orders over about 4 years and only managed to stockpile 10 million units. Could have been more but I weren't going to pay high prices for a useless item. Almost every time you purchased 500k+ of the stuff the price increased too much (risk vs reward) because there where so few sellers in the market. Before every patch it was too aggressive to buy in any volume. 3k+/unit for a item that was worthless over so many patches wasn't exactly worth the risk of buying and keeping its price up and hence paying more on future purchases. Until this year it has generally always been under 1k a unit except at patch times.

btw I am not the person that got the 20 mil unit 6 months ago or the person that got 10 million units only a month ago. Congrats to whoever it was a month ago as I was making my mind up to buying out the sell orders when all of a sudden they were gone.

IMO anyone that has been collecting stock deserve a payoff. Plus it isn't over yet, Thulium will now take a long time for the price to go up and stay up so that it can be sold in any volume. It will probably take longer than the technetium price rise did and wont be anywhere as high. Hopefully the number of holders of Thulium are very few and the competition from them selling wont be to bad. Otherwise I will be selling in two years like I did with tech. One thing Thulium has going for it is that maybe people that collected it years ago probably wont be in too big a hurry to sell straight away.

I done the buy a month ago, 5 million, it was my first speculative buy ever. Bought it at the 2.5-2.7k mark. Must of been some spooked people because some buys were over a million units. I done some math, and 4 million units was around 1 moon been mined for 1660 days, or 5 years. That should give you an idea of the amount of thulium being mined, dotlan says around 40 odd thulium moons, but u could prob double that easy for the acutual amount around.


What i dont know, was the actual usage per day, or what was being bought or stock piled. I also have no clue on what the actual usage will be, after the change. All i do know is i had 12b sitting around, and after following mynnna for sometime, thought i would throw it at something that would give minimal risk, (there was the shake announced quite some months ago that resulted in the price change and the buys), with the possibility of massive gains. Im just interested to see where all the r64's will go, will minmatar be the highest, as lets face, there t2 ships and modules are extensively used, or some other race.


All i gotta do now is stop going mad from thinking every 10 minutes should i hold or sell.

I can tell you playing this side of eve, is probably more exciting then 99% of the pvp ive done in eve.

Gallente has always been the highest (cause Gallente + Ore), I dont see why that should change

Congratulations on a spectacularly ill-considered post.

"Current jita prices"

rofl

Accumulated a small pile over a couple of years --- after all my bitching about it on Forums, what else could I do ?

Personally I think the stockpiles are massive, and there's now already a mad dash to find and tower every thulium currently in existence and get the spice flowing. Coupled with the fact that they've committed (hopefully) to tweaking component inputs to avoid a bottleneck mineral, it could be within the realm of possibility that thulium is depressed for a long time relative to the other 3 r64s, perhaps for as long as the current moon system lasts.

My guess is you'll see a price of around 5k pu for a long time, followed by a long and slow climb to 15k pu or so.

Right, I was keeping it simple and referring to the historic single "bottleneck" (with runner-up partner) that draws the vast majority of the value of the t2 market into itself.

My impression is that they want the bottleneck to be spread across the r64s, keeping the values within a relative range through alchemy and even tweaking component inputs if necessary.

mynnna many congratulations on the CSM seat, do you mind me asking how are you going to continue your market domination now that you're a member of the CSM with privileged info etc.

I've enjoyed your articles / bits on here but are you able to continue once your NDA'd to the hilt?

Apologies to the OP for hijacking the thread - curiosity got the better of me.

the demand of Gallentium should actaully be quite big, given that its acutally used for two races and the ore ships are quite CPU/processor heavy (e.g.1x invented hulk will require 12.000 units Gallentium).
There must be huge stockpiles, indeed. But im taking a wild guess that most of these stockpiles arent split through too many hangars, so I wouldnt expect too many market fighting.
climbing fuelblock prices and the coming Commadship/Hac balancing might do their part too.

needless to say that all that is very speculative and all im trying to say is that its quite possible that thulium could actually become one of the most expensive moon minerals.


...or not.