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Hurricane Killer
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God's Apples
Wilderness
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#21 - 2013-04-28 04:02:05 UTC
Sabre, your ignorance makes me want to shrivel up and hide in a corner.

A shield harb will kill a shield cane any day with scorch. A dual rep brutix is fast enough to catch a shield cane and has enough tank to brawl an armor one down. Same goes for the myrm and literally every other BC in the game. Any frig with a nos that is decent can kill a shield cane easily and a single web armor cane possibly.

Hell, many cruisers can do it. A kitey omen will win as with a caracal. In a straight up brawl a moa will beat a shield cane marginally.

"Hydra Reloaded are just jealous / butthurt on me / us because we can get tons of PVP action in empire while they aren't good enough to get that." - NightmareX
Fredfredbug4
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2013-04-28 04:14:58 UTC
The main advantage Minmatar has is being unpredictable.

Unless you know how the cane is fitted, you're going to have be prepared for anything.

A speedy hybrid boat is good as thermal/kinetic is decent, though not optimal, against shields and armor. Over focusing on anti-shields or anti- armor will basically turn the fight into a 50/50 shot if you don't know what type of tank the cane is using. Talos should work pretty well though you will have to get the jump on the cane, if the fight goes for even a second longer than it should you'll be dead. The other Gallente BCs should work fine as well. Be sure to bring web drones. The one constant of minmatar ships is speed. If you can take that away your blasters should have no problem taking it down.

You could also attempt to snipe the Cane. The Ferox, Oracle, and Naga are very good at this. Even an arty cane won't be able to match you in range and if you are well positioned they won't be able to close in on you without dying. Problem with sniping is you won't be able to tackle the Cane so you might want to bring a friend to do that.

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sabre906
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#23 - 2013-04-28 04:15:21 UTC
God's Apples wrote:
Sabre, your ignorance makes me want to shrivel up and hide in a corner.

A shield harb will kill a shield cane any day with scorch. A dual rep brutix is fast enough to catch a shield cane and has enough tank to brawl an armor one down. Same goes for the myrm and literally every other BC in the game. Any frig with a nos that is decent can kill a shield cane easily and a single web armor cane possibly.

Hell, many cruisers can do it. A kitey omen will win as with a caracal. In a straight up brawl a moa will beat a shield cane marginally.


You're going overboard with that cane whine there. Boohoo.Cry

That, and we can't count on the cane pilot always being you, so we can catch it with a harby.Lol
God's Apples
Wilderness
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#24 - 2013-04-28 04:23:48 UTC  |  Edited by: God's Apples
Fred, have you actually ever flown a talos before?

No matter the fit a talos will kill it. Try fighting a talos with null in against a shield cane with barrage. The cane will be dead before the talos gets to half shields. There is no "fight lasting a second too long" or "getting a jump on him" it's simple math and game mechanics. Sniping is also an awful idea because it's sniping. Web drones are useless because a) active gallente ships are as fast as canes and b) because they're awful but you wouldn't know that since you have obviously never used them.

And to the OP:

If you have to ask what ship you need to kill a cane you probably won't be able to kill a cane with any ship.

"Hydra Reloaded are just jealous / butthurt on me / us because we can get tons of PVP action in empire while they aren't good enough to get that." - NightmareX
God's Apples
Wilderness
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#25 - 2013-04-28 04:24:58 UTC
Double post.

"Hydra Reloaded are just jealous / butthurt on me / us because we can get tons of PVP action in empire while they aren't good enough to get that." - NightmareX
To mare
Advanced Technology
#26 - 2013-04-28 05:59:58 UTC
every BC will kill a hurricane pretty easily with equal pilot skills the hard part its to tackle the thing, but now not so hard since CCP keep reducing the speed agility advantage of minmatar ships
Diesel47
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#27 - 2013-04-28 07:54:05 UTC
Hurricane?


Just about anything these days.
Aralieus
Shadowbane Syndicate
#28 - 2013-04-28 14:51:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Aralieus
sabre906 wrote:

"Cane killer" requested by OP needs 2 things:
1. Catch it
2. Kill it
In that order.

Your slowboat Harby, which has no range control and use multi for some reason, can't fulfill #1. Or #2, for that matter.

I thought using Scorch was implied but to those who can't make that connection then yes, the fit I posted uses Scorch primarily.
You can kill the cane by overloading at crucial points throughout the fight, usually in the beginning overload your point and pull max point range (28K) till it's half burned out to mitigate the canes damage so that your shield tank will last longer than his. When your point is half burned go to 20km and let scorch finish him off. But of course sabre906 knew all of this cause he is PVP GOD and he is just trollin, right? Shocked


E: This is a sample of tactics you can use to take down the cane OP
Kiting Harb Tactics

Protip: Use your cap wisely

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