EVE General Discussion

ITT:

1. A discussion of the effects of outsourcing an old activity(time spent ginding) for an existing currency set(isk) subject to market forces, manipulation by people able and willing to put the time into farming it, and sandbox game play taken to a new economic level. Yay!

2. People who don't like the PLEX system.


Overall looks to be an innovative way to address the tedium of sec status grinding and allows less fewer NPC-oriented penalties for player to player interaction. Win all around.

This is ridiculous.

There is no information about quantities or spawnrates given, thus these talks are completely nonsense.

Besides that, it reads as if people believed prices wouldn't go through the roof
if their horror-scenarios actually came true. In any way, if suddenly ALL THE GANKERS
would buy tags for PLEX, prices would SKYROCKET making it unaffordable !

Even IF there are rich people who could buy PLEX to no ends,
these people are definitely NOT the majority !

You people are just batshit crazy about things not even happening yet
and probably never happening, because the market will prevent that !

Buying a ship is not the same as avoiding a consequence of what I did to another player.

But It really doesn't matters. I am fine with this change, it's another nail on the coffin.

*lol*

Hopefully in yours. Ingame.
Because you have no clue about this game,
else you wouldn't say such bull.

People should hunt you down and the likes of you down
and shoot you until you leave, because your attitude doesn't fit.

THAT's how the game works and THAT's why people love it !


(i, personally, really don't care about you people or what you think,)
(but the very fact that it's possible to make this happen is why this)
(game is still alive and why we love it. It's alive and well, not because)
(of people like you, but because of people like me.)

Pretty much. No matter how you turn it, it's a self-reinforcing circle of goodness, which, at worst, means everyone has to keep grinding for sec like they do today.

Seeing as how the two options are the same, this already exists in the game.

PATCH CHANGES, DA SKY IZ FALLING!

fact is that sec statuc atm does not stop ganking (is that good mechanic or not is discussion I will not go into),
and it is unlikely that 'dedicated ganker' char will pay any amount of ISK to buy back sec status,
however for 'normal low-sec players', sec status does have (at least some) impact as it does to visitors to low sec - when you see someone with -10 in local, saying 'pirate' is a good guess, while when you see someone with +5, it is quite likely he won't actively go after you. So sec status is at least somewhat part of character and playstyle - making it arbitrarily changable does take a bit of EVE from EVE (not much however, I really doubt seeing any significant impact from this, but still... )

Its like sending a kid to his room for timeout after he does something bad, but still allowing him to play video games. It defeats the purpose of a punishment if they enjoy it. Its the same here. People want to be able to gain isk in a manner they enjoy in order to circumvent the residual effects of their actions. There for rendering the consequences to almost nothing.

Then again the whole sec status system is pointless in the first place. Sec loss should only apply to aggressive actions taken in high sec, you know the area Concord actually patrols. Using sec loss as a risk factor for individuals in what is considered "safe space". Lowsec on the other hand shouldn't accrue sec less since it is not actively patrolled by concord. Let bounties in lowsec dictate who's a pirate or not, and let lowsec be the lawless empire it was meant to be.

Believe it or not, I don't enjoy forking over large sums of ISK. So... argument destroyed.

I think this stems from the carebear narrative that the "bad" things people like me do in this game are actual, literal, BAD things. I 'play' the "bad guy" and this is essential to EVE Online, but that doesn't stop carebears from labeling me an actual BAD GUY who must be stopped, it's inconceivably ridiculous.