Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Hello mates,
With odyssey there is a lot of stuff coming, and among it there is a lot of rebalance.
Im posting here because im concerned about what they are doing with sub capital minmatar ships.

Before starting to explain why, i would like to say that i can fly all the subcaps perfectly with all my characters, so its not like im raging because of being scared of losing anything. I am just worried about the so called "rebalance" which looks to be a huge troll for minies.

While nearly all the races are getting buffed (I am fine with that, its just a fact in the global idea that minmatars are getting screwed), minmatars are mainly getting nerfs and losing what make them fun to play : agility and speed.

• Cruise missile will be receiving huge buff
• Large Energy will be buffed
• The tracking enhancer will be strongly NERFED, and even if its not "minmatar dedicated" module, its the main race using it for obvious reasons. (kyte and stuff) And its nerfed while i till dont see any really good reasons for it.

About the ship themselves, it is kinda the same, except about the T1 stabber but the main minmatar ship line is getting really screwed compared to other ships, and mainly about their main racial characteristic : agility and speed.

• Gallentes are having all their battleship line getting a new youngness with new slots layouts/bonuses
• Caldari BS are globally buffed
• Amarr is buffed (this armag \o/!)
• What about minmatars? Typhoon and Mael looks fine, but the Tempest is getting small tweaks, mainly keeping his poor slot layout compared to the other races changes.
• About the new faction BCs, the navy cane is just the old T1 while other races are getting nearly totally new ships (with the navy harbi having more meds than the navy cane, wtf?)
• While all the faction cruisers are getting buffed the only one getting nerfed is the Stabber Fleet Issue

But the worst in this, is that as a result of all this buffs/nerf, Minmatar line of ships is nearly not anymore the more agile/fast line of ships. So they are getting nerfed, and lose their racial "natural strength" to other races for lots of ships. While other races are receiving STRONG buffs.

Apparently CCP Rise is well aware of that for his part. Im more concerned about what is doing CCP Fozzie who looks blind to that.

TL;DR : With the rebalance announces for Odyssey Minmatars subcap hulls are gonna be under powered compared to other races, please dont forget them.

Thank's for reading guys, and i would be really happy to know what you think about this.
Also please dont make this thread personnal, again, im fine with the buffs they made on other races, im just concerned about a "fair" rebalance.

Cheers.

I do believe that it is full circle CCP put them on top nao they are nerfing them to the ground..for some reason that is calling balancing.

And it is obvious.

While I'm no big city lawyer, seems to me that they are simply bringing Winmatar back in line with everyone else.

We’ll see after the patch I guess, but I cant see anything so far that’s going to be game changing. Sure they are going to lose their inherent “gtfo” advantage but hey, fair is fair right?

There is a very good reason why about 80% of small gang/solo dudes in null run Minnie ships.

Well, some of their ships were OP (the old cane particularly) but making all their ships becoming **** compared to other races, is may be not the solution, isnt it?

Just in case, for those who wouldnt understand, my point is not "LET THE MINIES BE OP", my point is "BALANCE THE GAME PLEASE!".

So Winmatar becomes Minmatar? Fine by me.

If that were true, you would have been asking for nerfs up until this point.


I'm not seeing that.

I think we need to get back what made each races' ships unique, instead of having a generic role for each ships that extends across all races.

The way it was:
• Minmatar: fast and agile, GTFO ability, lots of kiting and utility. Usually hardest race to train for due to the vast amount of skills needed to fly their ships effectively.
• Caldari: Long range capabilities and slow and chunky. Thick tanks.
• Gallente: I'm going to sit on your face while I melt it. Drones sting like bees. Ships are slow when plated, but agile hen gank fit.
• Amarr: Golden bricks of lasers and tank. Very straightforward with little variation.

How it is becoming: let's give all races a brawler ship, kiter ship, Tanky ship, and a special EWAR ship (ewar was there before). I just feel that the races are becoming too generalized and bland, without enough distinction between them.

Yes but isnt that balanced?

It would be just racial lines.
Then the hardest is to balance yeah.
What CCP is doing atm, its just mixing a bit of everything for every ship.

Sulistus, I was not talking about roleplay to you. Anyway you're getting personnal, and if you already read the rebalance topics, then i cant do anything for you.