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2 Billion invested on a character whose business plan is making a loss at making things.

I should try this, I'll soon have as much cash as flakeys.

Isk received thank you.
Now one thing I want to clear up is it is a lot faster to move 30 BC then it is to move the amount of ore that I mine.
Being as I am trying to obtain bpos for certain ships before summer patch inflates everything thru the roof.

I am not losing isk by no means, my time is worth what I value it at sitting on assets like tons of ore that
it will not move at premium prices and the only way to move that amount of ore would be to lower the prices to the point people would buy that amount.

30 BC are much more easy to relocate and when strategically placed can sell in 2-3 days.
Selling a weeks worth of ore could take months, and that's time I do not have.
If I am able to acquire what I need before prices inflate I will be able to stock pile on BCs after paying off my debts.
and come summer patch when everything skyrockets I will have more isk then I know what to do with.

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Oh, wow. I missed, before, that you were building battlecruisers.

Do you hate making money or something?

Why not just load a bunch of PLEX into a rookie ship and go orbit 4-4? At least that would transmute ISK into lulz, whereas your business plan simply converts ISK into less-ISK.

Ships move faster and I will have some left over and be in a good spot for summer patch. Anyone with researched bp for destroyers and bcs will be swimming in isk.

You are comparing premium prices of minerals to everyday prices of ships. Sure I could make more if i wanted to wait months to sell everything I have in minerals.
Or I could take a "loss" but not really get the isk faster get the needed support characters and bpos and when summer patch hits and everyone wants bc's to up grade to the navy ones they will go up in price and surpass there mineral cost.

In most business companies work at a loss in some areas to have much larger gains in others.
My isk is never in the red so I am not losing isk by no means.
I am just not making it fast enough to buy what I am after by the time patch hits.

Yeah, genius, that's because you're generating income from mining. Not exactly a shocker given that it's virtually impossible for anyone to fail to generate income from mining. A blindfolded glass of orange juice could do that.

I have built several navy ships and never needed a base model to upgrade. If that is your plan, you may need to rethink. IMO, the release of navy bcs will drive down the demand for base bcs.

Okay, and? What do you think this means, exactly?

What it ACTUALLY means is that you spend enough time mining to buy a plex and pocket some excess money.

Congratulations on not completely wiping out all of your mining income with lossy, inefficient production.

If I plexed four accounts for four months, and then threw 12 billion away on hookers and blow, I would still have enough to do that, again, twice over - and I don't even number among the internet space-rich.

Furthermore, mining income scales pretty ******* linearly. If you have a miner and can mine enough to keep him plexed and still have some left over, you can do the same thing with 3 or 4 or 20 miners. It's not difficult, it's not impressive.

The point is that you have mining income coupled with a bad manufacturing business, are incapable of understanding that these are two separate businesses, and think you're doing something smart because your wallet keeps getting bigger, when odds are it would get bigger, faster, if you just sold your minerals to buy orders.

Try actually selling your minerals to your production division, and then get back to me with how profitable it is.

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