EVE General Discussion

I just forgot to add that any effects to be done on the structure of the actual systems for a certain empire, those changes must not be applied unless the actual balancing major problems have been ALL resolved first, then when changing a system status from high to low sec will be a clear result of the FW status with the enemy race, while not worrying about were those 2 races in a balance (from game mechanics side not from player side), or if even that change was fair.. because "things are balanced now"

I think what he's referring to are the issues with Pred's lot on Kam station that have been going on for the last forever or so.

Frankly, I don't believe there IS a fix for something along those lines. The fix would be winning the fight. The PROBLEM is lack of cash in Amarr Militia, due to the imbalance of FW, yadda yadda. I've stated the changes I think would help already, but aside from balancing out FW so people have ships to throw at their enemies, there isn't a fix for stuff like this.

For the record though, many of us welcome the fights that neutral gangs bring to the FW area. As I mentioned before though, I believe something needs to be done about the gates to give better response and flexibility involving these encounters.

I have never met any of you Shadow Cartel guys in combat, but, I was not talking about you

What you do, is just normal, you see a target, you shoot it, I can live with that because this is what happens everywhere
Again I'm not complaining about Shadow Cartel or any neutrals in any FW system

Read that post of mine again so you can get my point, I did not say pirates ARE the problem, I spoke about a scenario has been made by pirates (who were previously PART of the militia by the way)


And I do welcome the fights with neutrals as well, for me they are more enjoyable than militia fights, because we don't know them, we both can get semi-shiny stuff to fight with, and we get good numbers as well - Actually I now remember fighting a gang from you guys in Kamela, it was 3 sides fight, Amarr, MInmatar and SC, of course Minmatars at that time turned on us and started shooting us while you were shooting us as well :P but that was a non-ordinary fight we don't get all the time there

Mr. Epilepleplepsy said exactly who I was talking about, maybe my mistake to make it anonymous, or generalize it, but I was trying to make an example of how imbalance can screw up a whole militia, if we got the income required to sustain heavy loses at the beginning if we get in a serious conflict with P Elite (who are camping kamela station since forever, with insta-locks and I swear if I get in kam I'll see them there now) if we got that income to sustain those starting loses, then we might got the chance to stand up again on our feet and push back

I bet the guy who lost his carrier is now sitting trying to find a way to get a replacement one, and please don't tell me don't fly what you cannot afford to lose because when you get in a fight and you see more than half a dozen of dreads cynoed into the grid out of NOWHERE then that rule is dead & strongly false

What I was trying to point out again: no income, with pirates just intending to cripple one militia led to a very clear 1 sided FW scenario and that is going to last a while because many corps left militia/switched side
Pirates are not the problem themselves, but no income + pirates like the scenario I described above and the past post are PROBLEM

End of my talk about pirates/neutrals

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So changing the structure of highsec systems into lowsec for the losing side is just going to wipe it completely off the map if it keeps going like this

And that will bring us back to "Fix FW please CCP"

You mean resetting the whole FW space for example each 6 months or 1 year?

this would be interesting, however goons would just join caldari to carry on their gankings! :P

some other, not bad at all ideas in there OP.

To even the player base between Amarr & Mini the T1-5 bonus system needs to change or simply be removed.

Lately we have had many corps changing side due to not being able to get enough LP to fund their game play.

I'm sure the intent of FW missions was to promote pvp, but with stealth bombers that are impossible to catch at gates that not working.

So here are my 5 changes I would do 2 non-pvp and 3 pvp.:

1) Set T1 = 100%, T2=110% etc up to T5 = 150% credit.
2) Remove the LP boosting of a system
3) Make lvl4 missions impossible to do with a single or tow stealth bomber.
4) A ship fitted with a WCS can't enter a plex.
5) Neutrals can't enter a plex, this is to get more pirates to chose sides.

Yep that is right, but we did not get to this point yet, and CCP has not pointed about anything to the level it goes serious so each faction shoot itself instead of its enemy faction

But still, that is a different talk I was needed to clear it, the real problem is regarding the mechanics that FW works

A change, making outlaws in FW not be shot by the faction police in highsec,
will not be for the better of the game. I can tell.

It's not a good idea. It will bring more people into FW,
but these won't be people who care about FW.

These people will just be the typical generic noobganker (aka 99% of them)
who want it even more easy to gank something. This especially applies in systems
with really short response time, like 0.9 and 1.0, where the most fun is to be had
by avoiding the faction police through warpwarpwarpwarpwarp in between short distanced bookmarks.

That's actually hard work. Removing that won't help the game.

did it cross your mind they were paid to do that by a minmatar?

No I mean that if you run from combat in the plex the plex timer will not just remain where you left it but actually start counting back to 0. Also militias should be notifiied when plexes are attacked.


We used to have no consequences but faction war sov was broken because it was most efficiently gained by avoiding pvp.

Now we have consequences but its still broken because fw sov is most efficiently gained by avoiding pvp.

Many of the proposals are now saying they want to reduce the consequences. But guess what? FW sov will still be broken because it will still be most efficiently gained by avoiding pvp.

Yes that is right we can tweak the consequences all we want but as long as FW sov is most efficiently done by avoiding all pvp it will remain broken. The 2 changes I listed above will make it so the most efficent way to plex is to just fight for the plex instead of running. That will fix fw sov.