Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I don't give a flying **** about AFK cloaking. I've used it myself to **** people off, it's hilarious. I think it should stay because people get all spergy and ******** over it.

And it brings out the ******** gankers who just want to remove local because they're so bad at ganking they can't even catch the unwary.


Oh really. A backwater end system with nobody else in system is "a wrong place"? What's the "right place" then?

Come on guys, let this fail and unbalanced idea thread die.

Neither of you want AFKing to stop in it's present state, so why argue over the same old stuff?

No, it's not "like you said". You said "absolute safety", not "nearly absolute safety".


"very bad at eve or very unlucky"? Is that the best you can come up with? It's all done to test the "it's absolute safety" bullshit people like you spew forth time and time again, when you know perfectly well it isn't "absolute safety".

I guess next you'll say that having the possibility of detecting cloaked ships will bring forth "absolute safety" as well.


This isn't my active PVP alt. Hope that helps.

So you want to take "keep an eye on local and intel" safety, and turn that into "stare at the result of my cloak detector being spammed while drooling at the keyboard " safety?

Guess what you really want to do is force people in nullsec to move to hisec to run L4s or incursions, all because you can't get a gank.


Oh, I'm sure you'll ***** and whine about it after local's removed as well.

"they can see me while I'm cloaked, I can't get ganks because the easy prey moved to hisec and the people who are still left actually use the cloak detection methods :( :( :("

Keep this crap out of my topic. There is a flag function to report this kind of crap to the mods.

You missed the part where afk cloaking doesn't need to be changed.

your idea sucks because it allows only kills on total noobs who are their first day in zero and havent learned that they should watch local yet. This is not a valid reasoning why instant local intel is fine but afk cloakers are not.

OP: Cloaking is not broken, handing out 'I WIN' buttons does nothing to improve game balance.
You know very well cloaked ships are underpowered in combat, so if you could confront them on your terms, you would get free killmails.

Zim: I agree with you conditionally, in that the SOV holders must place a POS module that scans down ships, and has a delay appropriate to that.
Otherwise, outside of gates being set to broadcast in the open whenever they are used, local should be voluntary. It is already used too often to hunt, beyond it's expressed purpose of communication.

Not at all, you misunderstand, the gate would announce them the moment they entered the system.
(using my variation).

Locals would immediately know about anyone entering the system using a gate.

The ONLY way to enter a system, without being announced, would be a covert cyno, and maintaining a cloak. They can't be scanned down by a module or player under those conditions.

Even then, unless the covert cyno can be used while cloaked, that ship will appear in local if it has not already.