Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Hey, so you say you've defended your idea, and I'm not going to go through 15 pages to make sure, but have you assuaged the WH concerns with your idea?

I'm pretty certain you'd find gathering fully reliable intel while warping on and off grid to be challenging and annoying.

Why should someone not be allowed to go afk in a game they pay to play each month? They can't kill you afk.

You can go afk in space without a cloak so why the hate for cloaking afk? We know, its a facetious question. It's because you don't like having to risk your ship, the EVE community knows that and hence that's why cloaking is as it is. Because without it, no one would ever die unless intent on doing so. The element of surprise wouldn't exist.

Your solution is an arbitrary penalty for a mechanic you don't care for. And its never-ever, going to be in the game.

And we also know why your posting on a alt. Its because your killboard record will show why you despise cloaking. But getting your poo pushed in doesn't mean that which enabled it to happen, is broken.

So you think the AFK timer wouldn't work because of balance? You've just proven my point quite nicely.

This topic gets attention, because you keep bumping from the grave. New people then post about how wrong you are and how unbalanced this approach is. The fact that you avoid awkward questions, speaks volumes about your argument and stance on the subject.

Caliph Muhammed may be blunt, but he has a good and valid point about you. But again you use your old fall back position of linking forum rules, instead of arguing your position. This with the other none arguments you have such as "SOLO KILL" and your constant insistence of linking this with a concord buff. Yea, good job.

So you're not going to balance your suggestion for a solution, I take it.

Balanced when you're thinking about an aggressive cloaker, sure. Pure intel-gathering, not so much.

I think the issue with a simple logoff, is that it really is not that simple. When you log off you sort of reveal your presence, ship type, and potentially location to any potential targets/agressors in system. Given somebody is a actually paying close attention, that means you may log in to find they have bubbled up your warp in, provided they have enough bubbles, and had enough time to potentially locate your safe.

Maybe not a strong possibility, but they may even have time to scan you out with combat probes. Don't really recall if your cloak is maintained in log off, or if you decloak the second you close the client. Not sure I ever really payed attention to that bit.

Not a major concern, but obviously logging in sort of gives you away.

edit: Personally, I think your idea is a bit to OP when it comes to scanning down cloaked vessels, and sort of defeats the purpose of having them in the first place.

I already offered a measure of balancing that would potentially make this idea more feasible in the sense of it having a much reduced likelihood of actually pinning down a cloakers location without them sitting on a moon or station, or some other thing. i.e: Intel guys have to be more careful, but the afk safespot is not nearly so at risk.

I think it was my first post in this thread.

Also, I believe eliminating the ability to decloak without bumping a ship is important here. No tech should auto decloak unless it is directional fired on grid, and then with limitations to arc and rate of fire.

Or they use up capacitor?
It would be a neat idea you can stay cloaked for a bit but the capital would only have so long as he is not cap stable. maybe a good 20min before ooh look on d-scan!

When you answer the question "how do you know?", is when you know the answer to the question "why do you care?".

Don't be dumb.

Have the probe system reversed in this case to favor catching small ships rather than big ones.

IE ships with the smallest sig radius are easier found, in comparison to say a cloaked Nyx that had jumped into system 5mins ago, and is cloaked at a safe waiting for his cap to regen before jumping again.

Or simply make Capitals and bigger immune/ineffected from said probes.

The problem with cloaking in its entirity is that currently people pay for alt accounts, train them Cyno5 + Covops, move them to a system of an enemy, that character remains there for the next month, logged in 23/7 seemingly afk, when its owner checks on it periodicly for targets to hotdrop onto.

The sheer fact that one aspect of the game, afk cloaking - i so important/worthwile for people to invest in multiple alt accounts and only train chars up to 10mil or under sp so they can perform that specific role and that is it.