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Beginner: Struggling to have fun, but don't want to give up yet. Help? Suggestions?
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J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#21 - 2013-04-24 10:40:44 UTC
Jenny Jupiter wrote:
Nice to see people recommending stuff as opposed to the usual "everything else apart from PvP is worthless".

I'm a newb, although I've looked at EVE before. I've always liked games that you can stop and look around in, do you know what I mean? EVE is the ultimate example of that.

It's one of the few games you can truly become immersed in - you should just go with the flow. If you make a few dodgy skill decisions, so what. It's not a race.

Fly safe, amigos, fly safe.


I think that anything but PvP is boring and stupid.
That doesnt mean that others have the same opinion. So I try to share knowledge and not my opinion.

OP...just try out anything that you might like and you will find your gameplay. It took me about a year before I found mine.

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Lost Greybeard
Drunken Yordles
#22 - 2013-04-24 10:51:41 UTC
Verett Elyk wrote:
So should I just be training up general skills right now to like level 4 like electronics and engineering? Or is there something I can shoot for so I can get a certain ship right away? I just don't know what ships to get, how to fit them, what skills to train, so I'm a little overwhelmed! haha


As a general rule, it is better to look for (or think up) something cool to do, and then figure out how to do it, than to look at what you can easily do/access and then pick what seems fun from that. This is because with a long-shot goal there are going to be a lot of intermediate steps that give you a direction.

For instance, if you want to pvp, start with something like "man, that T2 gallente cruiser with the drones looks pretty boss", then chart out how to get there by tracing back from the goal to where you are:

Ishtar:
- T2 Drone skills
-- T1 Drone skills
- Cruiser-sized assault ships
-- Frigate-sized assault ships
--- Frigates V
--- Frigate Weapons
-- Cruisers V
--- Cruiser weapons and armor
--- Fitting skills for cruisers in general

Then you start from the most accessible (frigate skills) and work your way forward, finding something to do along the way (in this case, RvB or FW pvp or piracy, then missions when you're doing cruiser stuff). Maybe you actually hit your target and enjoy it, maybe you find something along the way that distracts you and end up doing that instead.

Either way, having a goal makes the whole thing more coherent.
Dyphorus
Inritus Astrum
#23 - 2013-04-24 11:56:28 UTC
Find a good group of like minded people to play with. EVE is fun, people are what make it great.
Verett Elyk
Doomheim
#24 - 2013-04-24 21:53:57 UTC
Velicitia wrote:
Verett Elyk wrote:

I truly appreciate this. But i forgot to mention that i am Galliente. The only reason I went for the Osprey because was i was reading a guide on mining and they said go right for that after the venture. So I've been training for it. But now im stopping the training for it since i now see it is like a healer ship.


Logi ships (for you, Navitas and later the Exequror, and even later the Oneiros) are awesome and will nearly always get you friends. Only thing I ever really fly right now is a Guardian (or Scimitar). Don't really fly the Basilisk, as it's fleet-orientated, and when I'm doing shields, there isn't always a second logi (Oneiros/Scimi are more "built" for small gang roams, Guardian/Basi are more built for small gangs with one logi pilot)



The mining progression these days is Venture -> Retriever -> Mackinaw (for solo mining), the Procurer/Skiff and Covetor/Hulk are for "dangerous" and "fleet" mining, respectively.

When you're looking around at suggested ships and fittings, compare them to what's in game (read the ship descriptions), and see if what the guide (or suggestion) is telling you to do. The ongoing tiericide of the ships means that a lot of the guides now have outdated information.


Thanks for the help with the mining progression, i'll start looking into the retriever if no other area of the game grabs my taste yet.

Verett Elyk
Doomheim
#25 - 2013-04-24 21:54:45 UTC
Lost Greybeard wrote:
Verett Elyk wrote:
So should I just be training up general skills right now to like level 4 like electronics and engineering? Or is there something I can shoot for so I can get a certain ship right away? I just don't know what ships to get, how to fit them, what skills to train, so I'm a little overwhelmed! haha


As a general rule, it is better to look for (or think up) something cool to do, and then figure out how to do it, than to look at what you can easily do/access and then pick what seems fun from that. This is because with a long-shot goal there are going to be a lot of intermediate steps that give you a direction.

For instance, if you want to pvp, start with something like "man, that T2 gallente cruiser with the drones looks pretty boss", then chart out how to get there by tracing back from the goal to where you are:

Ishtar:
- T2 Drone skills
-- T1 Drone skills
- Cruiser-sized assault ships
-- Frigate-sized assault ships
--- Frigates V
--- Frigate Weapons
-- Cruisers V
--- Cruiser weapons and armor
--- Fitting skills for cruisers in general

Then you start from the most accessible (frigate skills) and work your way forward, finding something to do along the way (in this case, RvB or FW pvp or piracy, then missions when you're doing cruiser stuff). Maybe you actually hit your target and enjoy it, maybe you find something along the way that distracts you and end up doing that instead.

Either way, having a goal makes the whole thing more coherent.


Yea I've been trying to do stuff like that and then going to the prerequisites has helped me a lot. I will keep researching and finding what i like, thanks!
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