Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Why pamper the multi-billionaires in such an overt fashion?

Remove installed large rigs and dump them ship cargo .. let the fat cats pay for their diamond studded toy mice!

Most people are ignoring the good bit of news that CCP Tallest cleverly hid in this announcement:

With this change CCP is finally introducing T2 capital sized mods, in this particular scenario rigs. Now that they opened that door, it's reasonable to expect t2 capital guns, which are long overdue (as well as reps, fighters, cap boosters, etc).

First, you EFT warrior, second, you never had vindicator and third - you never can use it in solo fight because you will get blob on this vindi.

And vindi cost same price like carrier but for carrier T2 rigs will cost like 2-3 carriers.
You feel difference?!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoSUnJqJ7Yw

So by your logic, super/titan pilots who got their ships dirt-cheap before the drone poo nerf also enjoyed an unfair advantage as mineral prices subsequently rose?

There wasn't really an outcry over that. My Aeon was built in 2009 and passed through 2 owners before coming to me. Did I pay 2009 prices for it? No, I paid 2013 prices for it, because that's what the market dictated.

Look at freighters, orcas and all capitals - their price has nearly doubled, or has nearly, since the drone poo nerf... so what's the difference here, where the affected ships are vanishingly small in number compared to those who had any ship which consumed a lot of minerals to build before the drone poo nerf?

whoops is true I missed the "t2"

Perhaps you should read the post you quoted a little more carefully.

Up until now there was no "cross-polination" between subcap mods and t2 capital modules, the only t2 capital mods we had were siege mods, which were capital-only to start with. T2 capital rigs change that (T1 capital rigs do not however).

My first intuition is to suspect that this is an unbalancing change for the t2 rig market in isolation just because it will further push t2 rigs away from most people because of the increased demand for t2 rigs on caps and supercaps, but maybe it will be so expensive that existing cap pilots won't be able to afford new rigs so maybe there will be only a modest bump, with the largest impact being in t1 salvage.

I wish they'd increase the drop rate on blue salvage by five fold to help drop the price on t2 rigs and increase volume, and then include the t1 rig as the manufacturing material like in other t2 production (to prevent bizarre scenarios like t1 rigs that cost more than a t2 rig and to support the t1 salvage market), so that more people could use t2 rigs. 300-600 mil for a rig is a bit much for battleship sized rigs, and I'm just trying to imagine what a t2 capital semiconductor fitting on would do to my wallet.

So far.....
What I've read tells me that a Marauder is going to become a lot more 'efficient' in missions compared to current.
Since if the amount os salvage required goes up, price is likely to rise a bit, meaning the extra salvage a marauder turns while blitzing missions is going to increase it's profit compared to current, since the salvage value will be higher.

Predictions, Marauder price will go up a bit due to demand, Pirate BS price may drop slightly due to less demand, but more likely people will just move from T1 BS to Marauders & stay in Marauders.
Salvage price will go up a little.
More salvage will be on the market.
Probing out & salvaging lvl 4 missions with a noctis will become more profitable also.

It's almost like the economy will adjust.

The Orca is a Industrial Command Ship, and isn't listed as a capital ship in EFT/Pyfa.

The Rorqual is a Capital Industrial Ship, and has all attributes listed as such in EFT/Pyfa.

1.5b isk t2 rigs seem a bit much