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Rhivre
TarNec
Invisible Exchequer
#81 - 2013-04-23 17:57:29 UTC
Royal Executioner Shazih wrote:


You really haven't learnt anything from what people are trying to tell you in this thread have you.



I exactly got what they are to tell me:" Omg. **** u didn't train all skills on time? Haha fail! We planned all ahead and u didn't. NOOB!"

That's what most posts address.[/quote]

You saw what you wanted to read.

You ignored the posts with salient responses and instead focused on answers you thought of as trolls *shrugs*

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Rebecha Pucontis
Doomheim
#82 - 2013-04-23 17:57:50 UTC
Royal Executioner Shazih wrote:
Rebecha Pucontis wrote:
Ranger 1 wrote:
Having more skill points in total is not necessarily a good thing.

Being able to spend your skill points much more efficiently from this point on is always a good thing.


Exactly this ^ I already had my BC to level V on one of my characters with two of the racial cruiser skills above 3 already. Now, if the aim of the game was simply to maximise SP gain then I could spend a couple of hours getting the other two racial skills to level 3 for a massive gain in SP.

But guess what, that doesn't matter at all. So I kept the two racial cruiser skills I already have as I never intend on using the other two races ship with that character. Total SP is actually a negative point and keeping total SP as low as possible by not training useless skills is actually much better.


Ship skills are far from useless. Being able to fly all races makes u flexible and able to join different corporations with different doctrines.


Why would they want a newb in a caldari cruiser with no missile skills joining their fleets. Or a minmatar pilot with only skills in lasers. Your still not getting the point here. You really have no reason to need all 4 racial battlecruiser to level V, and by the time you do ever need them your character will have so many SP you won't blink an eye lid at training the additional BC skills.

Like I said, if I was following your logic I would train all my cruiser skills to level III as that would only take a couple of hours. But I never intend on training up all the other relevant skills on that character so it would actually be detrimental rather than beneficial.
Dave Stark
#83 - 2013-04-23 17:59:27 UTC
Royal Executioner Shazih wrote:
Rebecha Pucontis wrote:
Royal Executioner Shazih wrote:
Just as I expected I don't get any support. Mostly fail posts from fail veterans who is trying to celebrate their victory over one person. Why? Because there almost no new players in this game.


You really haven't learnt anything from what people are trying to tell you in this thread have you.



I exactly got what they are to tell me:" Omg. **** u didn't train all skills on time? Haha fail! We planned all ahead and u didn't. NOOB!"

That's what most posts address.


actually, we just pointed out that had plenty of time to train them. however, instead of training them you're here complaining about it....
Rebecha Pucontis
Doomheim
#84 - 2013-04-23 18:01:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Rebecha Pucontis
Royal Executioner Shazih wrote:
" Omg. **** u didn't train all skills on time? Haha fail! We planned all ahead and u didn't. NOOB!


Where did I tell you that you didn't train you skills on time? I told you that you really don't need all the BC skills at V, and if you ever do need them that will be such a long time down the road that the extra training time will be almost meaningless.

That and also the fact that your whinging that older players had it so easy and new players have it so hard these days, which is laughable. :)

Also, you still have a month left, so plenty of time to get your skills up if you really want them that much.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#85 - 2013-04-23 18:02:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Royal Executioner Shazih wrote:
I exactly got what they are to tell me:" Omg. **** u didn't train all skills on time? Haha fail! We planned all ahead and u didn't. NOOB!"

That's what most posts address.
…then you need to read again. This time, drop the attitude or they'll be entirely justified in posting those kinds of answers. Roll
Dave Stark
#86 - 2013-04-23 18:07:14 UTC
pretty sure if the OP stops whining, and updates their skill queue, they could probably get all racial frigs to IV, all racial cruisers to III, destroyers to V, and battlecruisers to IV before june 4th.
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#87 - 2013-04-23 18:08:45 UTC
Dave Stark wrote:
pretty sure if the OP stops whining, and updates their skill queue, they could probably get all racial frigs to IV, all racial cruisers to III, destroyers to V, and battlecruisers to IV before june 4th.
We should just go and kill her over and over again, until she apologizes for even opening her mouth. ^_^
Dave Stark
#88 - 2013-04-23 18:11:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Dave Stark
Solstice Project wrote:
Dave Stark wrote:
pretty sure if the OP stops whining, and updates their skill queue, they could probably get all racial frigs to IV, all racial cruisers to III, destroyers to V, and battlecruisers to IV before june 4th.
We should just go and kill her over and over again, until she apologizes for even opening her mouth. ^_^


i knew training destroyers V would be useful.

also just put it in evemon, 21 days to get what i just said. 42 days to get it to V.
isn't 42 days from now, june 4th? oh look, it is.

edit: closer to 43 days, but meh, the OP should already have some of the skills trained anyway.. right?
Rebecha Pucontis
Doomheim
#89 - 2013-04-23 18:12:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Rebecha Pucontis
Dave Stark wrote:
pretty sure if the OP stops whining, and updates their skill queue, they could probably get all racial frigs to IV, all racial cruisers to III, destroyers to V, and battlecruisers to IV before june 4th.


Even if OP didn't manage to get BC and Dest completely to level V, they would be at least a good 90% of the way there and so would get all the racial BC and Dest skills given to her almost fully completed in the next expansion.

With a Per and Will remap over 1 month is almost certainly enough time to max them out though.

Edit - Looks like Dave confirmed it in evemon also ^ So OP you really have no excuse to whine. Now get out of our sight :)
Georgina Parmala
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#90 - 2013-04-23 18:16:13 UTC
Royal Executioner Shazih wrote:

I exactly got what they are to tell me:" Omg. **** u didn't train all skills on time? Haha fail! We planned all ahead and u didn't. NOOB!"

That's what most posts address.

Actually, I believe what I said was "Haha noob thinks he needs to fly EVERYTHING". Also something something have fun something planning too long term.

There, was that easier to skim?

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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#91 - 2013-04-23 18:17:18 UTC
It boils down to the fact that training will be much easier for new pilots, especially since new pilots need to specialize to be effective.

Meanwhile, it will be much hard for older pilots to cross train into different racial ships.

Pretty much the exact opposite of what you believe to be the case.

If you are too ignorant to understand this, I don't know what to tell you.

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Murk Paradox
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#92 - 2013-04-23 18:20:40 UTC
I say we pick what we want to fly, found out how to acquire what support skills for it, and then skill up for it and fly it.

Far easier than freaking out on what you MIGHT have missed out on.

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Rebecha Pucontis
Doomheim
#93 - 2013-04-23 18:24:32 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:
It boils down to the fact that training will be much easier for new pilots, especially since new pilots need to specialize to be effective.

Meanwhile, it will be much hard for older pilots to cross train into different racial ships.

Pretty much the exact opposite of what you believe to be the case.

If you are too ignorant to understand this, I don't know what to tell you.


Exactly. I tried explaining this to the OP but she still thinks we are all just trolling her. lol

The whole purpose of tiericide is to make it easier for new players to compete with veterens.

You can get an orca now in 14 days when vets had to spend months training for it to name just one example. So I really have very little sympathy for you at all. I'm glad CCP are making it easier for you, but you still have the audacity to complain.
Kyt Thrace
Lightspeed Enterprises
Goonswarm Federation
#94 - 2013-04-23 18:30:48 UTC
I have 84 mil skill points. Dr. Caymas has over 200 mil skill points.

I think CCP should give me 116 mil skill points to allocate to whatever I like.

Just Saying...

R.I.P. Vile Rat
Varesk
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#95 - 2013-04-23 18:34:40 UTC
you still have time to train all the cruisers to 3 and bc to 5 if you start now.
Varesk
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#96 - 2013-04-23 18:35:31 UTC
welp you missed your chance.

sorry about that. think of the bright side of things. as a newer player you dont have to train bs V to fly a cap ship now.
fukier
Gallente Federation
#97 - 2013-04-23 18:42:52 UTC
Dave Stark wrote:
and ******** thread of the day goes to... OP, congratulations!



hmmm... dave does have a point...
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Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
#98 - 2013-04-23 18:44:23 UTC
Lol

This thread is worth an enormous freight container full of popcorn.

Remove standings and insurance.
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
#99 - 2013-04-23 18:52:38 UTC
Royal Executioner Shazih wrote:
Hi everyone.
Probably my post will bring a lot of criticism but I want to make a point.

Yup. Knowing that in advance is the first cue that you ought to reconsider posting.

Quote:
Due to ship skills revamp people who train Destroyers V and Battlecriusers V are going to get around 6mil SP. That is fine.
But players who dont do that will get nothing.

Lack of planning on your part does not constitute obligation on CCP's part.

Quote:
I propose that players who decided not to train the mentioned skill get partial recompensation (say 30% of the max possible skills).

You propose that people who failed to plan should get something for nothing. I see.


Quote:
Some of u will object because we all knew that in advance and could train Destroyers V and Battlecriusers V.

Yup.

Quote:
BUT while for older players 20-30 days of training is nothing newer players cant afford to spend so much time on 1-2 skills. It gives unfair advantage to older players and players who already have Destroyers V and Battlecriusers V over newer player.

Who said life was fair? This is EVE. EVE is harsh. HTFU or GTFO.

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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#100 - 2013-04-23 18:52:39 UTC
Bah! Too slow.