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DEC SHIELD - Now Closed

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Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#181 - 2011-12-22 20:27:36 UTC
Deltor Griffith wrote:
I congratulate your inability to fight your own battles.


Interesting Roll
Jada Maroo
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#182 - 2011-12-24 23:19:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Jada Maroo
Excellent service and not a scam. Used it when I got wardecced by my former alliance because I hurt their wittle feewings. Big smile

But its usefulness depends on how many members you have and how willing they are to stay docked until the war expiration. If you have a small enough/disciplined enough group you can avoid merc groups. Sometimes a corpie undocks into an ambush and you lose a ship - it happens. But if you use it right, it's a great way to cost dumb alliances millions of isk for nothing.
Tarrn
Space P0rn Academy
#183 - 2011-12-27 16:07:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Tarrn
War is the number one threat to my credit card being charged another month. It's a distraction to the long term goals of any corporation. I'm always having to coddle not just new players but veteran players who got bored, decided to join a corporation, then we get War Dec'ed, they lose a ship, leave the corp, leave eve.

How does this retain players? How does this retain members? How does this retain subscriptions?

Thank you "Google" for this thread.
Te Tapunui
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#184 - 2011-12-28 00:49:24 UTC
I guess it's just the way of the world being reflected online. No matter which way those of you who endorse this service try to spin it, in the end you are all cowards.

Our modern societies have created an attitude within most of us that we shouldnt even attempt to stand up for ourselves, and that other people (Police, security guards, soldiers, lawyers etc etc) should do our fighting for us. We have become so non confrontational that this attitude was bound to be brought into this virtual world.

I read about eve before joining and it was made clearly evident that it is a brutal darwinistic game. When I signed up I accepted this, and entered the life of a carebear. I mined and missioned and joined a lacklustre corporation who all mined and missioned together. We eventually attracted a war declaration by a pirate corporation and were morally outraged. It was so unjust and unfair we deemed, that we couldnt just mine and mission in peace. I lost a number of ships, and very nearly rage quit. Then it dawned on me. I had somehow over the years become a coward. Combat on call of duty or warcraft was no preparation for a battle within Eve. There was a real sense of risk and loss going on here, and I was about to shy away from it.

I also realised that I had opted IN for war simply by joining a player corporation. If I wanted to avoid a war all I needed to do was remain in an NPC corporation, problem solved.
Upon the realisation that I was indeed a total coward I stopped all thoughts of quitting, and decided to fight, carebear style. I learned the art of war avoidance and combat denial. It turned out to be great fun and resulted in the pirate corporation moving on and finding a new target. They always do, and you realise it was a great learning experience and insight of self realisation.

Before dec shield became legitimate there already existed a great many tools for the carebear to avoid war without fighting. The game just became that much more colorless for pandering to cowards, and the floodgates are opened for more to come...

Just remember guys, not to have Eve turned up too loud while you are mission running. Your neighbours might get annoyed and knock on the door, you'll be faced with some actual confrontation that CCP can't just nerf away ;)
Parsee789
Immaterial and Missing Power
#185 - 2011-12-28 08:07:07 UTC
Te Tapunui wrote:
BLAH BLAH BLAH ABOUT HIGHSEC WAR DECS AND BRAVERY



Highsec WarDecs is not a sign of bravery, it is the sign of the carebear, for both the griefers and the victims. Griefers are too pussy to come to low/null/WH and victims are too meek to do anything.


I would favor abolishing highsec wardecs just to **** off tough-guy highsec "pvpers".


Real PVPers pvp in non-high security where there is no protection from CONCORD.

Highsec pvpers are not pvpers, they are just carebears who know only station games and session timers.


Xolve
State War Academy
Caldari State
#186 - 2011-12-28 23:15:25 UTC
Parsee789 wrote:
Highsec pvpers are not pvpers, they are just carebears who know only station games and session timers.



Because you know.. there are no stations or session timers in Low Sec or Null..
Jake McCord
Greater Metropolis Sanitation Service
#187 - 2011-12-29 13:11:57 UTC
Xolve wrote:
Parsee789 wrote:
Highsec pvpers are not pvpers, they are just carebears who know only station games and session timers.



Because you know.. there are no stations or session timers in Low Sec or Null..

Well, there are, in in lo/null sec, no one really cares. Mostly there's no Concord to worry about in lo/null sec. Which is fine by me.

They pull a knife, you pull a gun. He sends one of yours to the hospital, you send one of his to the morgue. That's the Chicago way! Did I mention, I used to live in Chicago?

Xolve
State War Academy
Caldari State
#188 - 2011-12-29 16:50:56 UTC
Jake McCord wrote:
Well, there are, in in lo/null sec, no one really cares. Mostly there's no Concord to worry about in lo/null sec. Which is fine by me.


I think you missed the point of my retort space friend.
Jake McCord
Greater Metropolis Sanitation Service
#189 - 2011-12-29 20:46:23 UTC
Xolve wrote:
Jake McCord wrote:
Well, there are, in in lo/null sec, no one really cares. Mostly there's no Concord to worry about in lo/null sec. Which is fine by me.


I think you missed the point of my retort space friend.

Yeah, that's the problem with text messages. Hard to read the irony sometimes. Blink

They pull a knife, you pull a gun. He sends one of yours to the hospital, you send one of his to the morgue. That's the Chicago way! Did I mention, I used to live in Chicago?

Tarrn
Space P0rn Academy
#190 - 2012-01-05 16:44:39 UTC
Parsee789 wrote:
Te Tapunui wrote:
BLAH BLAH BLAH ABOUT HIGHSEC WAR DECS AND BRAVERY



Highsec WarDecs is not a sign of bravery, it is the sign of the carebear, for both the griefers and the victims. Griefers are too ***** to come to low/null/WH and victims are too meek to do anything.


I would favor abolishing highsec wardecs just to **** off tough-guy highsec "pvpers".


Real PVPers pvp in non-high security where there is no protection from CONCORD.

Highsec pvpers are not pvpers, they are just carebears who know only station games and session timers.




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Ahrieman
Codex Praedonum
Divine Damnation
#191 - 2012-01-10 11:20:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Ahrieman
Tarrn wrote:
Parsee789 wrote:
Te Tapunui wrote:
BLAH BLAH BLAH ABOUT HIGHSEC WAR DECS AND BRAVERY



Highsec WarDecs is not a sign of bravery, it is the sign of the carebear, for both the griefers and the victims. Griefers are too ***** to come to low/null/WH and victims are too meek to do anything.


I would favor abolishing highsec wardecs just to **** off tough-guy highsec "pvpers".


Real PVPers pvp in non-high security where there is no protection from CONCORD.

Highsec pvpers are not pvpers, they are just carebears who know only station games and session timers.




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nekuen olei
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#192 - 2012-01-10 19:48:24 UTC
It is a scamm, i have used it and all looks fine but 3 days later they wardec you
FeralShadow
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#193 - 2012-01-10 20:49:53 UTC
Honestly, i think combat players mainly ask themselves "In this game which isn't supposed to be safe for anybody, why are there people bumbling around high sec ignorantly running missions and mining? They shouldn't be able to do that in perfect safety" and so, the decs begin. Honestly I don't think it's so much the act of being a carebear, as it is how ignorant a lot of carebears are about the game's ideology. Then the bear dies and rage rage rage rage and that just proves the point of how ignorant they were. Yes, there's a lot of carebears who aren't ignorant, and you will find those people effectively combating the pvp pilots. There's a big difference imho, and the ignorant carebear is the one pvpers target above all others. As a matter of fact this whole decshield idea was likely started by one of those non-ignorant carebears, and thus it's effective.

What I'm trying to say is that if you dont like the combat side of eve, don't be an ignorant carebear and wander around highsec in your multi-billion isk ship going about your business. This game doesnt allow for that long, and pvpers exploit it.

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia

positie10
Quizzie Rascal
#194 - 2012-01-10 23:20:54 UTC
FeralShadow wrote:
Honestly, i think combat players mainly ask themselves "In this game which isn't supposed to be safe for anybody, why are there people bumbling around high sec ignorantly running missions and mining? They shouldn't be able to do that in perfect safety" and so, the decs begin. Honestly I don't think it's so much the act of being a carebear, as it is how ignorant a lot of carebears are about the game's ideology. Then the bear dies and rage rage rage rage and that just proves the point of how ignorant they were. Yes, there's a lot of carebears who aren't ignorant, and you will find those people effectively combating the pvp pilots. There's a big difference imho, and the ignorant carebear is the one pvpers target above all others. As a matter of fact this whole decshield idea was likely started by one of those non-ignorant carebears, and thus it's effective.

What I'm trying to say is that if you dont like the combat side of eve, don't be an ignorant carebear and wander around highsec in your multi-billion isk ship going about your business. This game doesnt allow for that long, and pvpers exploit it.


It was started by a crappy pvper because he couldn't survive in 0.0 so now he created a "dec shield" that actually had the functionality of providing information for his executing corp. This way it is very ez for him to get rid of high sec industrialists.

http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=corp&name=Zerg+Hatchery&page=1#losses

http://eve-kill.net/?a=corp_detail&view=kills&crp_id=120513&m=12&y=2011

http://evemaps.dotlan.net/corp/Zerg_Hatchery/pilots

etc etc


Rasz Lin
#195 - 2012-01-11 04:06:26 UTC
nekuen olei wrote:
It is a scamm, i have used it and all looks fine but 3 days later they wardec you


of course you got decced, people look for weaklings that join DECshield, having that alliance in corp sheet means you are weak and juicy.
what did you expect? all benefits no drawbacks?
dinotopija
BRUTAL GENESIS
GaNg BaNg TeAm
#196 - 2012-01-12 08:30:42 UTC
THKS DEC SHIELD manage to save my pos with your help Big smileBig smileBig smileBig smile i I appreciate help like this......
HappyJamjam HappyJamjam
#197 - 2012-01-18 22:21:42 UTC
bump. read both of the zerg overminds post regarding this exploit before judging him for or against. Twisted
StonerPhReaK
Herb Men
#198 - 2012-01-18 23:30:18 UTC
/me passes out some "relaxing brownies" to both parties.

Signatures wer cooler when we couldn't remove them completely.

Jack Miner
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#199 - 2012-01-20 21:54:55 UTC
Bump from a friend.
Spoony Wan
Perkone
Caldari State
#200 - 2012-01-28 15:19:16 UTC
This service saved my bacon when my high sec pos was ransomed. If this service was not free i would have paid to have the help he gave me. I messaged him so many times i thought he would put me on ignore.

Top notch service.

Thank you soo much.