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I suck at character creation and need help

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Concurssi Mellenar
Doomheim
#1 - 2013-04-21 19:23:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Concurssi Mellenar
So I guess I'm a nerd and I never leave the house or something, because I don't seem to know what humans look like. Especially women. Cry
So, give me a hand here, would you?

http://i.imgur.com/GhvhYCD.png
http://i.imgur.com/a9wuimK.png
http://i.imgur.com/dfKbqo7.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/jOOVdSt.jpg

I'm making a new character, but I just can't for the life of me see if this character looks decent or not. I should point out that I've always been bad at using character creators, regardless of the game. Also, as a male who adheres to the heteronormative expectations of society, I don't know jack about makeup, so don't judge me too hard on that front.

He who controls the veld, controls the universe.

Kazuma Gaterau
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2013-04-21 19:33:16 UTC
Blush is a little hard. For that skin tone I recommend a more complative tone for the blush something that will darken her pink doesn't compliment the skin tone so try sort of a bronzing blush. As for that little bit of eyeshadow I recommend using a normal black eyeliner not something pink as well
The lipstick is ok a lighter tone will go better with the bronzing blush though
Try to choose an eyeliner that isn't heavy under the eyes but rather on the domes, or eyelids more.

Not sure which options in the character creator you'd choose to achieve this, but from a make up stand point that is what would be best.

-sources
Girlfriend is certified make up artist in state of New York on Long Island, she's taught me a bit about this and I in turn teach her how cars, computers and video games work.
Concurssi Mellenar
Doomheim
#3 - 2013-04-21 20:37:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Concurssi Mellenar
While I'm just slightly confused as to what you mean when you said
Quote:
As for that little bit of eyeshadow I recommend using a normal black eyeliner not something pink as well
and
Quote:
Try to choose an eyeliner that isn't heavy under the eyes but rather on the domes, or eyelids more.
because eyeshadow and eyeliner are different things, at least in the game, but I tried to change the makeup around a bit. Got this: http://i.imgur.com/8jXAWoh.jpg
There doesn't really seem to be a lighter tone of lipstick in the game, all I can do about that is use the opacity adjuster.
Edit: maybe this is better? http://i.imgur.com/c4kulu2.jpg


What do you think about the structure of the face and the proportions of the body?

He who controls the veld, controls the universe.

J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#4 - 2013-04-21 21:21:35 UTC
I showed this thread to a REAL girl who plays EVE.

She laughed.

So OP, can't help you with the question.

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Concurssi Mellenar
Doomheim
#5 - 2013-04-21 21:25:27 UTC
Did she laugh because I've never seen a human before, or because the character looks wrong? That's the important bit.

He who controls the veld, controls the universe.

Elena Thiesant
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2013-04-21 21:29:05 UTC
Looks OK to me, but I'm no makeup specialist I'm afraid.

Is an amusing change to find a guy interested in creating a realistic female character :-)
Concurssi Mellenar
Doomheim
#7 - 2013-04-21 22:28:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Concurssi Mellenar
Actually the sculpting of the character matters more right now, because all that other stuff I can change later without having using a PLEX. What do you guys think, is this character okay when it comes to that?

Edit: 71 views, six replies, three of which are mine. Come on people, I don't need expert advice here, just tell me if the sculpting sucks or not.

He who controls the veld, controls the universe.

ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#8 - 2013-04-21 23:49:16 UTC  |  Edited by: ShahFluffers
Concurssi Mellenar wrote:
Edit: 71 views, six replies, three of which are mine. Come on people, I don't need expert advice here, just tell me if the sculpting sucks or not.

I'm afraid very few are going to take you seriously.

Why?
Because...
Concurssi Mellenar wrote:
Did she laugh because I've never seen a human before, or because the character looks wrong? That's the important bit.

The part in bold smacks of troll (I'm honestly surprised no one has jumped on it yet). The only way you've never met a human before is...

- You are an extraterrestrial playing an MMO (highly unlikely... aliens would be smart enough to not subject themselves to this game).
- You are a sentient AI (unlikely... you have more efficient things to do with your time than play in a game full of meatsacks... and appearance is meaningless next to functionality).
- You are blind (plausible, but unlikely... how the hell are you manipulating the user interface? The amount of information needed to process an action cannot be conveyed through computer voice and audio commands alone).
- You are a "bubble kid" and live in a facility (plausible, but unlikely... you should have TV and/or the internet to see what other people look like).
- You have lived out in the middle of nowhere with no one around for as long as you can remember... but just happen to have internet access (eh... plausible... but I still don't buy the whole "I have no idea what women look like"... just use google).



edit: *sigh* I'll be nice.
OP... mold the character body based on what you find most appealing.... moving and altering the shapes and proportions until you are satisfied. Don't overthink it... just let instinct guide you (assuming you are human yourself). And if someone makes fun of your character's appearance just say, "to each their own."

For example: I tend to prefer women who have wide-ish hips and smaller busts... nice legs but not skinny. The eyes and smile should draw you in and captivate yo-... *ahem*... to each their own.
Kazuma Gaterau
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2013-04-22 02:47:27 UTC
Last edit looks good to me
Slymah
DorpCorp
#10 - 2013-04-22 02:59:17 UTC
1. Push the randomize everything button
2. Play the game
Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#11 - 2013-04-22 04:48:37 UTC
i'll just leave this here

I should buy an Ishtar.

Shao Huang
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2013-04-22 06:08:30 UTC
I made a female alt. I always have her portrait posed as if asking the question 'why did that ***hole' make me look this way?'

Private sig. Do not read.

Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
#13 - 2013-04-22 07:19:51 UTC
Lose the thick blush, get some piercings and ask a goth to do your eyeliner for you (male or female, doesn't matter). Blink

http://youtu.be/t0q2F8NsYQ0

Concurssi Mellenar
Doomheim
#14 - 2013-04-22 07:50:18 UTC
ShahFluffers wrote:
The part in bold smacks of troll (I'm honestly surprised no one has jumped on it yet).
Given the context of the OP, I think it should be fairly obvious that I'm making jokes about how bad I am with character generators.

Daniel Plain wrote:
I'm modeling a character, not myself Blink

He who controls the veld, controls the universe.

Mary Jane Moonbeam
Descendant Command
#15 - 2013-04-22 11:06:57 UTC
I will offer private tutoring in sculpting, makeup, posing and lighting for a modest fee of 550mil (or 1 unit of PLEX).

Celeste Taylor
Ruby Dynasty
#16 - 2013-04-22 12:04:11 UTC
My suggestion is to find a spot (or first box if resculpting) on the "history bar" in the character creator that you find comfortable with. Then do your experimental changes. Once you are done toggle between the before and after boxes to see which one you like better. You can then go back in the history and add the changes you like and dropping the ones you don't, so it helps to do the more likely changes before the weirder more experimental ones.

I created this character a little after the free resculpt that came with the new skin tones almost a year ago. I was mostly satisfied with the relatively conventional looks, but decided to spend a PLEX once resculpts were available for purchase. I really like the results better than the original version and did some noticeable tweaking dropping elements I didn't like and exaggerating the ones I did. A couple weeks later I decided to use another PLEX to do some minor adjustments which is pretty close to this final design. I have resulpted a number of times since, but these have only been really minor things like toggling freckles, angling nose tip a bit higher/lower, slight mouth size changes, etc. At this point I don't think there is much more I could do to make my ideal character although it did take some rather obsessive experimenting.

The bottom line is that I believe we all have different images of what we think is our ideal design. I happen to like weird features like high and deep placed eyes (max settings) along with a long, thin nose (also max settings), a very tiny jawline and not much as far as cheeks (which are set to min settings) and pretty much all the body settings also set to minimum. The end result is a rather unique look that I really like, but probably won't be to your taste.

Others can tell you what they like in a design, but only you can say what you like. There are definitely attractive avatars that have a wide variety of looks.
Velicitia
XS Tech
#17 - 2013-04-22 12:17:38 UTC
ShahFluffers wrote:

- You are a sentient AI (unlikely... you have more efficient things to do with your time than play in a game full of meatsacks... and appearance is meaningless next to functionality).



Or one of the CCP Hamsters has realized the NPC characters all look a bit off and wants to fix that.

Or the AI hasn't caught onto "this is a game played by meatsacks who aren't really plugged into the computer"

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia

Concurssi Mellenar
Doomheim
#18 - 2013-04-22 12:46:41 UTC
Mary Jane Moonbeam wrote:
I will offer private tutoring in sculpting, makeup, posing and lighting for a modest fee of 550mil (or 1 unit of PLEX).
I'm not sure if you're serious, but in any case, no thanks.

I ended up going for that final edit, with just some minor changes to the jawline and cheekbones. Thanks for the help.

He who controls the veld, controls the universe.

Galara Hakari
Bombastic Inc.
#19 - 2013-04-22 15:18:29 UTC
Last one looks good to me. In my experience, the most challenging part was the expression.
Manny Moons
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2013-04-22 15:22:37 UTC
Slymah wrote:
1. Push the randomize everything button
2. Play the game

That's what I do. I have been known to push it up to twenty times if it's a really important character. If I don't get something decent in that length of time, then ugly it is.
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