Player Features and Ideas Discussion

So on that logic, Titans and super carriers are fine, as CCP has not removed them...

Fact - freighters have not been touched since added to the game

Fact - Combat and Ship balance of Combat ships has had many changes, even more so in the last 2-3 expansions.

Fact - 3 years ago a freighter gank cost more than the cost of the freighter hull, Currently the cost is about half of the
freighter hull.

This has nothing to do with inflation, as that affects both the freighters and the combat ships fairly equally. The cause of this is power creep due to changes made to combat ships. Freighters need to be updated to be brought up to current standards caused by this power creep or combat ships.

what power creep?

what's the point?

mining barges have the very same variant and it's basically ignored and unused and may as well be removed and nobdoy would mourn it's passing.

If you don't use all 3 versions it doesn't mean that nobody does. Of course some are used more often, but they all fill some niche. The freighter covers the high volume niche very good, but it obviously lacks when it comes to high value goods... Maybe they should make a completely new hull or a new tech2 version of it... And however you look at it, ganking a freighter is a way to easy job.

For expensive stuff I use a prowler, almost impossible to catch in high and low. I do plan on getting a freighter because well..?..? Ok I still have to find a reason but I want one anyway

These things already exist in game. Use a scimitar or two if you are worried about a gank. Shield reps hit immediately so that could be enough to keep the gank from working. Use a booster ship to boost EHP. Use both. Look at eve-kill.net to see if a gank squad is currently active along your route (look at likely gank systems).

And even if you can tank them, what are you going to do? Tank it and carry an even higher value cargo? Then you make it possible for the gank squad to just add more pilots. You are just moving the bar around in terms of gankability. And if you aren't sitting there watching that damn ship every second you fly it, you could be ganked in a 0.6 or 0.7 system...even with your tank because if you aren't there watching it, you wont be there to turn on the tank--i.e. you'll in effect have no tank. At which point, I'm sure people will come back saying, "OMG, please buff freighters warp speed and align times!!!"

Basically, I see these threads pretty much as, "Oh my god, my freighter was ganked (cause I was dumb and overloaded it value wise). To the forums to ask for a way to tank my freighter."

Which the TL;DR is: buff freighters cause I was dumb.

Has any one considered T3 Freighters that work in the same way as T3 cruisers.

Suicide ganking of freighters have been increasing and increasing with each year, it would make scene for a freighter upgrade. If your backbone is getting destroyed on a regular basis and you come to a stage where it pays off to invest into new technologies.


Subsystems for resistance
Subsystems for armour/hull/shield increase
Jump Drive subsystem's Long range / Short range
Subsystems that increase Cargo Capacity
Subsystems that increase Fuel Bay to specialise is moving isotopes and strontium
Subsystems to add a ore hold to specialise in moving Ore and minerals
Subsystems that add Ship Hangers to specialise in moving packaged/ unpackaged ships
Subsystems that increase Warp-speed and Agility

Each subsystem would have a negative effect for example:

Jump Drive Subsystem would decrease your agility and cargo hold

Fitting Ship Hangers would result in only having a minimal Cargo hold a few thousand m3

Allows people to focus on Hauling one type of commodity / resource and be efficient at it.
Today's freighters will still be around as the entry level freighter

This cool Subsystem would make capital warfare more interesting, would also make titans more focused on one thing:

Subsystem for Hanger
Subsystems for GangLinks
Subsystem for being a mobile Cyno Beacon
Subsystems for tanking
Subsystems for Jump portaling
Subsystems for Damage
Subsystem for Star Gate construction
Subsystem for Stargate Destruction

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!'MOTHER SHIPS'!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

read the comments, this pilot did something to uspet some one.

could you try harder not to find extreme cases and try and present them as every day cases? we're getting bored of pointing out how bad you are at this.

Hull tanking ships? Good, then there is no sense in not having at least one fittable low slot for a damage control. No fittable slots put the Freighter class ship on the same plane than shuttles...
Or maybe, it could be a way to find a new reason to be for the Reinforced Bulkheads

we laugh, and offer to sell back their cargo at unreasonably inflated prices.