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[Closed] - [Somali UNI] Don´t be a fool, join the school

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StoneCold
Decadence.
RAZOR Alliance
#1 - 2013-04-19 10:03:43 UTC  |  Edited by: StoneCold
Dear ladies and gentlemen of crime & punishment,
Dear ladies and gentlemen of ‘not so scoundrels’,

former targets asked us if we´d show them how highsec wars in general and merc-day-to-day business works. So we thought about running out a “class”.

You´ll learn what it means to hunt in highsec - and how to avoid getting toasted.
Saying this means you´ll also learn how a merc works - and thus you´ll also get known to make a mercs hunt less fun (while you´re on the recieving side).

"scedule" will contain subjects like: "know your target", "how to find targets" and so on.
Some more specific knowledge like "the art of suiciding (for profit or assassination contracts)".
Pretty much everything can be covered related to the profession of highsec-dweller (just don´t expect mining operations).

There will be a small theory-part every "lesson" (with compact information upfront via evemail).
The practical part will outlast the theory by far (learning by doing).

We might also go on a roam in lowsec - it all depends on what the class is up to.

KB of the Boot'Camp: http://camp.killmail.org/?a=home


Why we think we are capable of this:
kane.killmail.org
StoneCold.eve-kill.net
Somali.killmail.org


'Details':
- size of class is limited due to my herpderp corp skills A mate will update the corp with his superior corp skills.
- will last as long as you like to stay
- costs: 300m 200m


Minimum requriremnts:
- be able to pilot at least 1 combat-able ship (resonable t1 frig with warp disruptor / scrambler) will do to get started.
- only fly what you can afford to lose
- willingness to learn (if you don´t: just send the isk as donation and don´t occupy a slot)
- for optimal learning process you will have to join the "House of sparrows" "Somali Coast Guard Bootcamp"
- you need "guidance", but none to hold your hand
- additional pro: beeing able to run locator agents can save you loads of isk (and make you shine in your group)

If you´re interrested and want on the "contact when available"-list, send me please an eve-mail (just DON´T send isk without a talk)


Additional info: (sort of Q/A)

Q: Why do you charge fee?
A: Simply because a wardec cost isk. If the corpwallets turns (to) fat and healthy we might start a ship reimbursement.

Q: Why do you run a school?
A: It turns out that some of our closest eve friends are ex-wartargets. And according to them there is a market. Filling market needs is good, aye?

Q: U´re bad at forums.
A: I know.

Q: I know allready a lot of stuff but I´m looking for a corp.
A: Feel free to join the class. If we invite the "top of of the class" into Somali or not is not yet decided (but it´s on the table).

Q: You can´t be always around. How do you guarantee that you even teach us?
A: I´m going to setup a corp bulletin with all needed links so you can find all information all the time. Corp mails will contain the 'theoretical stuff'. As fighting in large gangs is not what you´re going to learn here you´re encouraged to organise yourself in small (2 - 4)combat groups.

Q: I have no idea how pvp works. I also don´t want to risk real isk on the process of learning. HALP ME!
A: No problem at all. We realy teach you the way you like (including risk-free lessons on Singularity if that´s what you looking for).

Q: I heared Kane is a cannibal and you are a ne'er-do-well/scoundrel/whatever. I don´t dare to participate in your class.
A: Besides from public assumption Kane and me are 'normal' people (whatever that means). With jobs, family and everything else. And to be honest: the group of "our kind" of people is way more relaxed then 'them others' (ingame).


For Questions please contact me ingame or via evemail.

EDIT:
Public channels for chatting and Q&A is "Sparrowlings"
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#2 - 2013-04-19 10:26:31 UTC
I endorse this service.

Stonecold is one of the few people blue to me that I wouldn't shoot.

He and Kane are exceptionally good at what they do.

I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com

StoneCold
Decadence.
RAZOR Alliance
#3 - 2013-04-19 10:30:03 UTC
Thank you very much for your kind words Sabriz.

In fact Kane and me dealt around 12b isk in damage in the 3 weeks we fly together (while still on 'holiday-mode').
Karak Bol
Low-Sec Survival Ltd.
#4 - 2013-04-19 11:26:07 UTC
I hope this service will run for some time. Would like to participate, but got no time right now. Good luck to you.
StoneCold
Decadence.
RAZOR Alliance
#5 - 2013-04-19 11:29:06 UTC
So far its planned to keep it open.
As people can join at willing and stay as long as they want.
gnshadowninja
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#6 - 2013-04-19 11:30:03 UTC
Awesome solo PVPers and Mercs, would be well worth the money if your a beginner.
Cannibal Kane
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2013-04-19 11:30:50 UTC
Awesome Stone...

Thanks for setting this up.

"Kane is the End Boss of Highsec." -Psychotic Monk

Kristopher Rocancourt
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2013-04-19 11:46:20 UTC
good guys, doing a good service.

http://killalliance.co.uk/tears/tears-holeysheet/

Ra Jackson
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2013-04-19 13:26:21 UTC
Now that is some proper content creation right there.
Reppyk
The Black Shell
#10 - 2013-04-19 17:33:45 UTC
Oh ! Pirate

I AM SPACE CAPTAIN REPPYK. BEWARE.

Proud co-admin of frugu.net, a French fansite about EVE !

Alyshie
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2013-04-19 18:20:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Alyshie
I like this idea very much.

  • Is there a date when the classes will start or are you still waiting for enough people to sign up?

  • What timezone will the classes be held? During the week or weekend?

  • Is the fee for a certain amount of lessons? Will the House of Sparrows wardec corps so we have things to shoot at while learning?

  • Is there a payment plan available? (only partly joking)

  • Thanks for answering any of these!
    StoneCold
    Decadence.
    RAZOR Alliance
    #12 - 2013-04-20 08:35:28 UTC
    Hey Alyshie,

    ty for your interrest in our service.

    Well, the plan so far is to keep the service running. Meaning that you can join whenever you want.
    As there is no limit or minimum participants needed i think for optimal results there should be at least 3, maybe 4 (also depending on the participants skills).

    Both of us (kane and myself) are EU-TZ. So 99% of the service will be held in EU. Though that´s not a real problem as you can get the 'theoretical' knowledge presented via mail. Though it will be an advantage if you got a wingmate for actually getting kills.

    The fee is truly to cover wardec costs. In the beginning there will be maybe 1 or 2 wardecs only (again it´s not set in stone. Depends on participants, activity of targets and so on).

    Payment plan - herpderp :P
    But: if there is a payed job (or any sort of income) the ISK will (most likely) be sent to the corp wallet to cover even more wars.
    For long-time participants who also Q&A newbros there might be some income (kane and me are pretty relaxed. So we havent set much yet so we can form the class as it fits US ALL best (inlcidung the sparrowlings).

    How we finance a whole lot of wars when corp wallet bled dry... yeah, thats something i have to think about.
    I will happily keep 2 50m wars active for my very self cost. But 10 wars will force me to sell my shineys - which makes me cry :P. A way to fix it can be brainstormed 1 or 2 weeks before this happens.

    Hope that answers your questions well.

    If you have more Qs upcoming just let me know.


    Cheers,

    Stone.
    Sabriz Adoudel
    Move along there is nothing here
    #13 - 2013-04-20 10:12:34 UTC
    Have you considered working with the Gecko on this endeavour?

    His brief stint in my recent war was outstandiing, he did over three billion ISK damage solo to a bunch of mercs that, while not good, were at least competent.

    Plus I know you move in some of the same circles.

    I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com

    Alyshie
    Aliastra
    Gallente Federation
    #14 - 2013-04-20 10:54:52 UTC
    Thanks for answering my questions Stone.

    What I meant by payment plan, was about paying all the fee up front or if I could pay it over a few weeks. I didn't mean to ask if I would get paid :P

    If it's okay I will send you an evemail when I wake up since it is 4am here and I need some sleep first.
    magic preacher
    Pandemic Horde Inc.
    Pandemic Horde
    #15 - 2013-04-20 11:16:55 UTC
    good luck with this guys

    have you thought about ally in a few wars to keep the cost down ?

    StoneCold
    Decadence.
    RAZOR Alliance
    #16 - 2013-04-20 15:58:23 UTC  |  Edited by: StoneCold
    Ty for the reminder preacher, most appreciated.

    In fact i forgot about it. Though, to keep costs low it´ll ofc works.
    But so far it´s planned to bring our 'newbros' in use of real contracts.

    Meaning that payouts from clients will again go to corpwallet.
    StoneCold
    Decadence.
    RAZOR Alliance
    #17 - 2013-04-20 16:00:34 UTC  |  Edited by: StoneCold
    Alyshie wrote:
    Thanks for answering my questions Stone.

    What I meant by payment plan, was about paying all the fee up front or if I could pay it over a few weeks. I didn't mean to ask if I would get paid :P

    If it's okay I will send you an evemail when I wake up since it is 4am here and I need some sleep first.


    That would mean some of paperwork :effort:.

    The lazy bum inside me cries out loud: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.
    My resonable side just says: yeah, everything is ofc possible on a base by base agreement.

    Don´t forget we all meet at the same level - as human beeings and video gamers.

    EDIT:

    If you spread the word and / or bring friends with you we also are up for negotiations (like a group-discount).
    StoneCold
    Decadence.
    RAZOR Alliance
    #18 - 2013-04-21 11:28:01 UTC
    Added the info about our public channel: "Sparrowlings"
    Mike Adoulin
    Happys Happy Hamster Hunting Club
    #19 - 2013-04-21 14:05:48 UTC
    Awesome service, keep it up.

    Everything in EVE is a trap.

    And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:)

    You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg.

    Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.

    StoneCold
    Decadence.
    RAZOR Alliance
    #20 - 2013-04-21 18:15:45 UTC  |  Edited by: StoneCold
    Class wont be limited. A mate will update the corp soon(tm) with his superior corp skills

    EDIT:
    The price is lowered to 200m because of some talking with interrested people.
    Also Kane offered to bump the corpwallet for the cause by 1b if needed.

    Accepting "apps" (again please a brief talk; either via convo, sparrowlings or evemail) on 01.05.13.
    Gnah: accpeting apps before but training will start on 01.05.
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