EVE General Discussion

I'm not trying to troll or cause aggro or whatever other term I'm not currently up on in forum/mmo use. But I am genuinely curious about this. "EVE Online's nineteenth free expansion, Odyssey" but to me EVE only ever had one true expansion and that was Apocrypha. All the others felt like updates (some larger than others) but Apocrypha added new systems, ships, factions, mechanics, even a new version of the boxed game.

My question really is about the development team and if it is getting smaller? I understand that some focus is on or has been shifted to Dust and WoD, but so liitle seems to come from the expansions. Six months for 2 to 5 new ship models, some updated textures and tweaked mechanics. That sounds like the work of a 10-15 man team (and I'm might be being generous there).

I know a lot of people say this but I used to work on Games (not MMOs though so my opinion might not count) and I alone would have to crack out at least 30+ models or a whole UI and effects for a game in 6 months (along side 40+ other artists). If I'd turned out one or two models (going through however many iteration to please lead artists, designers and producers) I'd have been fired.

I just get the feel from the Dev Blogs, videos and past fanfests that the EVE dev team was larger than this.

Any insight would be welcome, thank you.

I agree with OP.

Afer Apocryphya CCP spreaded their resources over DUST and WOD. Apcryphia is the last true expansion we got.
The recent Cruccible, Inferno and Retrivution fixed and improved a lot of things but are basically patches/mantainance.
But more than resources allocation the main concern here is the lack of a vision. Lack of vision justified by all the CSM in charge that showwed so their mediocrity and unability to give feedback and general vision of the game.

All the ship rebalancing rethoric is good, but cannot be considerated a real work to expand the game universe.
It's good, yes, but is also a mere update on a SQL table, not like they need a team of NASA engeneers to balance spaceships...

The new t2 BC and new destoryers are cool toyes, yes, but weren't really needed; when in Apocryphia they added the new class of modular T3 ships there was to fill a new role. New space type, new resource gathering and industry layer, all linked in a vision.

Now, if they nerf the Hurrican to release after 3 months a new navy version of it that is basically the same as the old hurricane so you can claim "see, we are working hard to improve FIS!" we see the trick, not like here everyone is stupid...

This thread isn't about PVE content. No idea why some people feel the need to discuss PVE in here.

This thread is about the perceived and evident discrepancy between expansion output and reputed dev manpower, and why the last expansions were mostly about fixing already existing game mechanics, changing some stats in the database, and some paintjobs, instead of adding new gameplay features increasing the complexity of Eve and giving players new venues to interact with each other, like former expansions did.

Anyone who isn't a deluded fanboy must have come to the conclusion that either CCP put Eve on minimum effort/low maintenance mode or that Eve devs are amazingly unproductive.

Nobody gives a damn about PVE or your obsession with WoW.

This is an internet spaceship game, and the focus is therefore correctly internet spaceships.

People come to play EVE because they want to fight awesome galactic battles in spaceships, and stay fully satisfied thanks to CCPs improved efforts to create a balanced galactic battlefield.

It seems that you don't understand the depth of the game if you are only seeing it as "nullsec".

I'm not interested in null politics at all, but all my game content is created by players, either my team or some others.

We have easy access (log in, warp from pos to anomaly) to the highest end PVE in game, sleeper capital escalations, and frankly nobody from our community bothers doing it. PVE by nature is boring.

I'm sorry but neither are we interested in hearing how you pay PLEX and don't enjoy the game as it is.

The latest expansions have all expanded the game itself. The "tweaks" done to T1 cruisers for example were in reality dozens of completely new ships, that have changed the way people play the game.